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They must look at something that shows their bible to be wrong and think ...
'How can we overcome this problem? Ah! I know! I'll just say that the words that are printed on the page don't actually mean what they say... but something completely different. When I'm called on it I'll simply say that one has to be in possession of a secret 'code' to understand the words, a code that will only be given to you if you accept that the words in the bible mean something completely different. to what they say.'
That's it precisely, old Splurge (I have to call you that for Tzaph's benefit )
Get away That's the longest -winded wind -up I have ever seen in my entire posting life.
Whaddya think Raffa? Do you buy it that it was just kidding us?
Well, I can afford a contradiction, I mean, it still aint one to me, but I can see you guys point. But there are a lot of prophesies like that where half were fulfilled waiting on the other half to be fulfilled. A whole bunch of them that an Atheist could come up with.
Like that missing week in Daniel, or the second floods to come in Joel, lots of half filled prophesies.
Whaddya think Raffa? Do you buy it that it was just kidding us?
Nah mate. He's just backed down after having his arse handed to him on a plate. Ain't that right Hannibal?
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Originally Posted by HeelaMonster
Well, if you're going to get picky, I always thought it was spelled "scrote."
Or maybe that's just yet another difference between American and Queen's English?
[ETA: Actually, a quick search suggests that this *IS* a matter of British vs. U.S. spelling. I am learning so much from you guys!]
Learn some more. There is no such thing as American English. There is English and there are mistakes.
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Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius
Well, I can afford a contradiction, I mean, it still aint one to me, but I can see you guys point. But there are a lot of prophesies like that where half were fulfilled waiting on the other half to be fulfilled. A whole bunch of them that an Atheist could come up with.
Well, if you're going to get picky, I always thought it was spelled "scrote."
Or maybe that's just yet another difference between American and Queen's English?
[ETA: Actually, a quick search suggests that this *IS* a matter of British vs. U.S. spelling. I am learning so much from you guys!]
It is 'scrote' . I was just messing about, as i'm sure Raffs knows..
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Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius
Well, I can afford a contradiction, I mean, it still aint one to me, but I can see you guys point. But there are a lot of prophesies like that where half were fulfilled waiting on the other half to be fulfilled. A whole bunch of them that an Atheist could come up with.
Like that missing week in Daniel, or the second floods to come in Joel, lots of half filled prophesies.
Yes, I have to agree with Raffa. Bible prophecy is not to be regarded as divine predictions or promises that were fulfilled. Many are wrong, (Babylon, Tyre and Raff's 'Egypt desolate'. Daniel is history cast as prophecy until their own time (Maccabean revolt) when it goes wrong, and end with a sort of 'rapture' prediction. The Jesus predictions are additions to the Jesus story to fit OT passages (e.g Massacre of innnocents), or interpreting or adapting OT passages to fit the Jesus story (e. g death of Judas).
The 'prediction of the state of Israel' is one that was deliberately fulfilled by people with that in mind, and I think that Jesus' donkey ride really did happen and was also a deliberate attempt to fulfil a prophecy. The only one that Jesus really did try to fulfil.
It is 'scrote' . I was just messing about, as i'm sure Raffs knows..
Yes, I have to agree with Raffa. Bible prophecy is not to be regarded as divine predictions or promises that were fulfilled. Many are wrong, (Babylon, Tyre and Raff's 'Egypt desolate'. Daniel is history cast as prophecy until their own time (Maccabean revolt) when it goes wrong, and end with a sort of 'rapture' prediction. The Jesus predictions are additions to the Jesus story to fit OT passages (e.g Massacre of innnocents), or interpreting or adapting OT passages to fit the Jesus story (e. g death of Judas).
The 'prediction of the state of Israel' is one that was deliberately fulfilled by people with that in mind, and I think that Jesus' donkey ride really did happen and was also a deliberate attempt to fulfil a prophecy. The only one that Jesus really did try to fulfil.
You are reading the Bible as if everything has been fulfilled when it hasn't.
Israel has been gathered just as it was planned, we claim Jesus came for the spring holy days, but all the fall Holy days are yet to be fulfilled, and this encompasses very many prophesies in the old Testament where we see the future of the fall Holy days being fulfilled.
The old Testament is not a history book, it is history and future, one cannot say that everything has come to pass because it hasn't, but it is appointed to all be fulfilled in the second coming appointed for the fall Holy days, and we can show ALL the prophets speaking of the fulfillments of the fall Holy days, the oil and wine harvest.
It is 'scrote' . I was just messing about, as i'm sure Raffs knows..
No old horse. It is 'scrot'...short for scrot*m.
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