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Old 07-28-2018, 08:24 AM
 
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Mandaeans maintain that Jesus was a mšiha kdaba "false messiah" who perverted the teachings entrusted to him by John. - https://www.quora.com/

I wonder how hey came to this conclusion?...
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Have to give email in order to read the link? No thanks.
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Mandaeans maintain that Jesus was a false prophet

I wonder how hey came to this conclusion?...
I thought jesus didnt exist, cant keep up with the baloney these days.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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As in "John the Baptist?" I agree with da Dude: no e-mail given out ya wanna fill us in a bit? Google Mandaeism
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Old 07-28-2018, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I thought jesus didn't exist, can't keep up with the baloney these days.
I don't think we are saying Jesus didn't exist - we are questioning whether Jesus actually existed. Speaking for myself anyway.
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I don't think we are saying Jesus didn't exist - we are questioning whether Jesus actually existed. Speaking for myself anyway.
That's a valid position to take.

My position is a little different. I think Jesus probably existed. Or at least I'll give the christians that. He probably even preached.

But all the magic? No. I don't think so. Somehow that part all reminds me of "The Piper" by ABBA.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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The person existed. Whether his name was "Jesus" is another story. The miracles, to me, appear allegorical. They are understood by those who seek to understand.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The person existed. Whether his name was "Jesus" is another story. The miracles, to me, appear allegorical. They are understood by those who seek to understand.
I'm sorry, but I know many christians who out and out believe that the miracles of the bible are absolute fact. Again, christians need to get their act together and decide what their faith really believes before they set out to convert others.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:22 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but I know many christians who out and out believe that the miracles of the bible are absolute fact. Again, christians need to get their act together and decide what their faith really believes before they set out to convert others.

I agree with you. But that's what happens when you don't read the Bible. For Jesus to literally "cast out devils" is, IMO, witchcraft...and that's forbidden by God. So it has to be allegorical...otherwise Jesus is a hypocrite and not pious enough to hold his position.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I agree with you. But that's what happens when you don't read the Bible. For Jesus to literally "cast out devils" is, IMO, witchcraft...and that's forbidden by God. So it has to be allegorical...otherwise Jesus is a hypocrite and not pious enough to hold his position.
There's something seriously wrong here if we agree on something!
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