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Old 07-30-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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I know we're in 2018 because that's accurate according to the calendar system I grew up with. But the Hebrew calendar is different, and more accurate. Unfortunately I haven't learned it yet, so don't ask me about it. There is a reason ancient civilizations were way better at tracking time than we are. The Chinese don't use our system. They adapt...they learn our system, but the system of their ancestors is more accurate. The Greek stole everything from God's people, who had the blueprint. The world we live in now is fake, on multiple levels. Because Satan is the "father" and "architect" of this world. And God is letting him have his way...only for a prescribed time. Even Satan knows he has a limited time. But his followers believe the illusion.

Note: I am in no way calling disbelievers Satanists. "Forgive them father for they know not what they do." As people have mentioned before, the words uses to describe Satan translate to things "adversary" and "deceiver", which is what he is. I think if we changed thr language we used to describe Satan, people would see his mischief more clearly.
Not sure why you say that the Hebrew calendar is more accurate, they all add one year once a year. But neither Hebrew nor all other calendars other than the one we use with this year 2018 use either AD or BC (BCE) for the years. Curious 8f you don't know the Hebrew calendar then how can you know if it more accurate? Does it account for the fact that the Earth does not revolve around the Sun in exact days better than our system of leap years?

So how do you know that the world we live in is fake?
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:17 PM
 
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There was a website I came across that discussed the Hebrew calendar, and it made way more sense to me. It was very "common sense", and I am not math genius. I figured if I was able to see the patterns then it must be accurate. How do I "know" it's accurate? Because I read the scriptures and there is a lot of repetition...themes repeated over and over again. And in my own life, I can recognise repeating patterns. I don't believe it's a coincidence but divine order. I just know. You can't explain it until you experience it yourself.

I know this world is...maybe "fake" is not the best term, because it absolutely has real consequences. But based on my understanding of the Bible and what I know to be true, you start to see the illusions. Something as simple as divisions by political parties when really, it's all the same party. A money party that has players on both sides in order to make us believe they're different. But fundamentally they're the same. People don't see it because they're tied to their ideas. I really like what another poster said the other day regarding your inability to make different choices due to your brain wiring. It wasn't stated exactly like that, but that was the gist. IMO, that's one of the best ways to strip this madness down to the basics. In God's world, things make sense at the core. In Satan's world, things don't. Why? Mass confusion and deceit.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Not "the shark" Dude, "the rails." Even "the Fonz" would miss this one.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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There was a website I came across that discussed the Hebrew calendar, and it made way more sense to me. It was very "common sense", and I am not math genius. I figured if I was able to see the patterns then it must be accurate. How do I "know" it's accurate? Because I read the scriptures and there is a lot of repetition...themes repeated over and over again. And in my own life, I can recognise repeating patterns. I don't believe it's a coincidence but divine order. I just know. You can't explain it until you experience it yourself.

I know this world is...maybe "fake" is not the best term, because it absolutely has real consequences. But based on my understanding of the Bible and what I know to be true, you start to see the illusions. Something as simple as divisions by political parties when really, it's all the same party. A money party that has players on both sides in order to make us believe they're different. But fundamentally they're the same. People don't see it because they're tied to their ideas. I really like what another poster said the other day regarding your inability to make different choices due to your brain wiring. It wasn't stated exactly like that, but that was the gist. IMO, that's one of the best ways to strip this madness down to the basics. In God's world, things make sense at the core. In Satan's world, things don't. Why? Mass confusion and deceit.
I do appreciate your response however I must be living in Satan's world as little of it made sense to me.
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Old 07-30-2018, 02:04 PM
 
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I don't know what 30 AD means because I don't know the point at which they began counting time. So "30 AD" could mean different things, depending on who's counting time, and when they started counting.

This is why dates are not as important as signs, and reading scripture for YOUR OWN understanding is better than being taught by someone...who may not have understood...or did, but chose to mislead people.
This is EXACTLY why there are over 30,000 Christian sects today....because Christian leader thought reading the scriptures and interpreting them the way their common sense told them they should be interpreted was more important than leaning on the Holy Spirit for one interpretation. Now I say that not as a person who believes in the Holy Spirit (I don't) but as one who says Christians should practice what they preach and lean on THEIR Holy Spirit for correct interpretation. If we have 30,000 different interpretations then obviously the Holy Spirit is asleep at the switch.
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Old 07-30-2018, 03:16 PM
 
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a side note -- the Jewish calendar is a solar adjusted lunar calendar. Approx. 354 days a year necessitating an extra month added in 7 times every 19 years. Back in temple time, new months were testified to by witnesses. But that system had problems so a mathematical system was enacted.
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Old 07-30-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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a side note -- the Jewish calendar is a solar adjusted lunar calendar. Approx. 354 days a year necessitating an extra month added in 7 times every 19 years. Back in temple time, new months were testified to by witnesses. But that system had problems so a mathematical system was enacted.
Thanks, i didn't know the exact method of calibrating it to an actual year. Adding
7 months every 19 years compared to adding one day every four years unless the year ends with 00. I know which one has more accurately as well as more of a pattern.

As well this finely tuned universe was certainly not designed for us measuring time, moon cycles or days can neither be divided into a year evenly.
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Old 07-30-2018, 04:51 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Thanks, i didn't know the exact method of calibrating it to an actual year. Adding
7 months every 19 years compared to adding one day every four years unless the year ends with 00. I know which one has more accurately as well as more of a pattern.

As well this finely tuned universe was certainly not designed for us measuring time, moon cycles or days can neither be divided into a year evenly.
The adjusted lunar calendar is just as "accurate" in most any sense because the adjustment is built in mathematically to keep it coordinated with the solar calendar. The solar calendar is approx. 365.25 days, creating an extra day about every 4 years. The lunar one of 354 simply falls behind the solar one by 11 days each year. The extra month is added in order to keep the seasons aligned with the calendar:

If in year X, the first day of spring is on day 1, the next lunar year, it will be on day 1 minus 11, and the next, 1-22 etc. If the lunar system's laws require that day 1 falls within a certain range, never before 1-44, a month has to be added in to keep the day 1 from falling too far back.

Even a non-adjusted lunar calendar is accurate in that it measures days and the passage of cycles in a consistent way.
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Old 07-30-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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If treemoni had intentions of hijacking this thread he succeeded brilliantly. Hey, people: the topic is NOT the Hebrew calendar, it's "Jesus was a false prophet". Let's get back on topic.
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Old 07-30-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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This is EXACTLY why there are over 30,000 Christian sects today....because Christian leader thought reading the scriptures and interpreting them the way their common sense told them they should be interpreted was more important than leaning on the Holy Spirit for one interpretation. Now I say that not as a person who believes in the Holy Spirit (I don't) but as one who says Christians should practice what they preach and lean on THEIR Holy Spirit for correct interpretation. If we have 30,000 different interpretations then obviously the Holy Spirit is asleep at the switch.
People are free to decide in their own life concerning God.
Theyre free to be atheist too if they want and no atheist needs agree with any other atheists.
Youd think such simple observations would be self evident.
Well, they are, except for the ones who think they are God.
We can all have a chuckle at them.
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