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And the point is still that there is a good basis for the consideration of "informed consent," what is needed is to recognize when it applies.
No...there are only opinions about that. The "basis" is subjective, at best.
I know of a case where a very promiscuous hottie 16 year old high school girl, that had a score of partners and had sex hundreds of times, set her sights on a 18 year old nerdy virgin guy that got a full scholarship to an Ivy League school. She fully admitted that she wanted to get pregnant by him so she could live as the partner of a guy who was the son of well-to-do Drs, and was going to be a Dr himself.
He had never had sex before and she seduced him. Yet they still busted him as a rapist based upon the arbitrary and subjective "basis" that he was an "adult" and she was "underage".
For most of human history females were Mothers in their early teens. Were they all "raped"?
If this kinda stuff keeps up they will be busting parents for "unlawful imprisonment" for grounding their high school aged children.
No...there are only opinions about that. The "basis" is subjective, at best.
I know of a case where a very promiscuous hottie 16 year old high school girl, that had a score of partners and had sex hundreds of times, set her sights on a 18 year old nerdy virgin guy that got a full scholarship to an Ivy League school. She fully admitted that she wanted to get pregnant by him so she could live as the partner of a guy who was the son of well-to-do Drs, and was going to be a Dr himself.
He had never had sex before and she seduced him. Yet they still busted him as a rapist based upon the arbitrary and subjective "basis" that he was an "adult" and she was "underage".
For most of human history females were Mothers in their early teens. Were they all "raped"?
If this kinda stuff keeps up they will be busting parents for "unlawful imprisonment" for grounding their high school aged children.
I had a female friend in high school that seduced a court social worker, so she could get out of being punished for truancy related problems, she was 15/16 at the time, he was in his late 20s...they were never discovered and it just ended mutually, she ultimately got what she wanted and she was definitely the aggressor/initiator. This girl liked to brag about this feat among her friends, she was quite proud of the fact she had this power over adult men.
No...there are only opinions about that. The "basis" is subjective, at best.
I know of a case where a very promiscuous hottie 16 year old high school girl, that had a score of partners and had sex hundreds of times, set her sights on a 18 year old nerdy virgin guy that got a full scholarship to an Ivy League school. She fully admitted that she wanted to get pregnant by him so she could live as the partner of a guy who was the son of well-to-do Drs, and was going to be a Dr himself.
He had never had sex before and she seduced him. Yet they still busted him as a rapist based upon the arbitrary and subjective "basis" that he was an "adult" and she was "underage".
For most of human history females were Mothers in their early teens. Were they all "raped"?
If this kinda stuff keeps up they will be busting parents for "unlawful imprisonment" for grounding their high school aged children.
As I said, "what is needed is to recognize when it applies."
As I said, "what is needed is to recognize when it applies."
So, since that is your "moral standard" on the issue...**Being "informed" enough to be able to reasonably give consent**....let me ask you this:
Since so many nowadays are sexually experienced by the age of 13 or 14...are you cool with somebody like that, fully understanding and desiring what they were doing, having sex with any other that understood in the same way, regardless of age?
What about two young virgins in a marriage arranged by the parents, as has been very common in this world?
I had a female friend in high school that seduced a court social worker, so she could get out of being punished for truancy related problems, she was 15/16 at the time, he was in his late 20s...they were never discovered and it just ended mutually, she ultimately got what she wanted and she was definitely the aggressor/initiator. This girl liked to brag about this feat among her friends, she was quite proud of the fact she had this power over adult men.
How about that?
But "The Law" would claim he was raping her.
A very sexually experienced 15/16 year old is automatically, by law, being raped by someone the age of that social worker...even if the older person was completely sexually naive.
It shows how subjective and arbitrary "moral codes" and laws that support them really are.
So, since that is your "moral standard" on the issue...**Being "informed" enough to be able to reasonably give consent**....let me ask you this:
Since so many nowadays are sexually experienced by the age of 13 or 14...are you cool with somebody like that, fully understanding and desiring what they were doing, having sex with any other that understood in the same way, regardless of age?
What about two young virgins in a marriage arranged by the parents, as has been very common in this world?
"Informed consent" would mean aware of all the remifications. I doubt that a 13 year old would be, but it is possible. As for arranged marriages, why would I consider that any differently?
"Informed consent" would mean aware of all the remifications. I doubt that a 13 year old would be, but it is possible. As for arranged marriages, why would I consider that any differently?
So...if a 13 year old was "aware of all the ramifications", and was fully consenting and desirous of having sex with someone in their 50s, you would then see that as "morally acceptable"...since it met your "moral standard"? In your opinion, of course.
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