what is your opinion of new age (Muslims, ghosts, gospel)
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well, it may be nonsense to you. but what about the believer who chooses to believe because he is endowed with the individual freedom to believe. only autocrats who think they are intellectually superiority seem to condemn those with such beliefs.
my rebuttal to non- tolerant secularists is this: nobody can prove or disprove the possibilty of a creator
. that may be subjectively ignorant to scientist; on the hand, it may be philosphically satisfying for people who are not sure for the reason of their existence
I was very much into New Age in the 1980s. I had studied comparative religion and anthropology, and I was looking for what all religions and spiritual traditions have in common. I also became interested in holistic philosophy and alternative science at that time.
I am glad for all that I learned from being involved in New Age spirituality. Except I gradually got away from it and have stopped thinking of myself as a New Ager. I don't like the fact that they seem to deny everything negative. They don't seem able to deal with what I think is the reality -- you can't have light without darkness.
i am not really too familar with new age.
i did come to the conlusion that are two types
one is similar to christianity and bhuddism.while the other is a narcissitic one that accumulates karma for good business success, health and spiritual growth, without dealing with poor or imperfect people and the unpleasant practicalities of life
bhudda and jesus say in their own way that suffering occurs in the practical world; on the other hand, the narcissitic version of new age regards stock decreases, common colds and poor social eye sores as the result of bad karma. some meditate to harness good karna to drive the poor social eyesores away which accumulates good karma for their portfoilios and future investmebts
it is interesting to note that edgar cayce, a name that is synonmous with new age, not only suffered, but was often poor.
the narcissitic version of new age seems to regard homeless and those who make under $50,000 bad karma; in fact, narcissitic new age types give meditation advice the poor so they accumulate good karma in their invisible bank account to become rich.
they also donate lemon and mint soap because it accumulates good karma which means a bigger good karma account to withstand stock sell offs, disease and poor social eye sores.just kidding
well, it may be nonsense to you. but what about the believer who chooses to believe because he is endowed with the individual freedom to believe. only autocrats who think they are intellectually superiority seem to condemn those with such beliefs.
my rebuttal to non- tolerant secularists is this: nobody can prove or disprove the possibilty of a creator
. that may be subjectively ignorant to scientist; on the hand, it may be philosphically satisfying for people who are not sure for the reason of their existence
I never advocated forcing anyone to do anything. I simply pointed out that nonsense is nonsense. If a person chooses to believe that Jesus returned to life and subsequently flew away, or that Muhammad once rode a flying steed up to heaven to visit God, for example, that is entirely up to them. But there is an understanding that certain unrealistic claims which conform to actions or beliefs that contradict all common observation and therefore all common sense are unrealistic. Nonsense! If a person chooses to subscribe to beliefs that are apparent nonsense, that is up to them. But they shouldn't then be surprised if their credibility is questioned, and their opinions are ignored, or even ridiculed.
Making up a reason for existence because one finds a particular reason satisfying is nothing more than make believe. It's an illusion. Illusions only work so long as nothing occurs to puncture the illusion. Reality oftens works to puncture illusions, I'm afraid. Some people DO manage to sustain their childlike illusions for a lifetime, of course. Whether that is a good thing or not is also a matter of opinion.
I was never much for subscribing to apparent nonsense just because others believe in apparent nonsense. I have always found concrete answers based on physical reality much more satisfying.
well, i dont know if cs lewis' business interests influenced his conversion to christianity. one can argue that his public conversion attracted a more broad and prevalent customer base. i cant infer that cs lewis coverted to sell more books.
it is a fact, however, that religion is not merely for the ignorant poor as some often assume
One looks at all the factors available to him, recognizes that he can't PROVE anything in "spiritual" matters and says, "THIS is what makes sense to me."
I never advocated forcing anyone to do anything. I simply pointed out that nonsense is nonsense. If a person chooses to believe that Jesus returned to life and subsequently flew away, or that Muhammad once rode a flying steed up to heaven to visit God, for example, that is entirely up to them. But there is an understanding that certain unrealistic claims which conform to actions or beliefs that contradict all common observation and therefore all common sense are unrealistic. Nonsense! If a person chooses to subscribe to beliefs that are apparent nonsense, that is up to them. But they shouldn't then be surprised if their credibility is questioned, and their opinions are ignored, or even ridiculed.
Making up a reason for existence because one finds a particular reason satisfying is nothing more than make believe. It's an illusion. Illusions only work so long as nothing occurs to puncture the illusion. Reality oftens works to puncture illusions, I'm afraid. Some people DO manage to sustain their childlike illusions for a lifetime, of course. Whether that is a good thing or not is also a matter of opinion.
I was never much for subscribing to apparent nonsense just because others believe in apparent nonsense. I have always found concrete answers based on physical reality much more satisfying.
well, i dont know if cs lewis' business interests influenced his conversion to christianity. one can argue that his public conversion attracted a more broad and prevalent customer base. i cant infer that cs lewis coverted to sell more books.
it is a fact, however, that religion is not merely for the ignorant poor as some often assume
You didn't answer the question of how one chooses to believe.
i cant answer a question for an individual because it would require me to make generalizations and assumptions.
i was an agnostic who became to believe in a creator.
i dont know how other atheist/agnostic change from such an objective stand point. the same can be said about a christian who converts to atheism or a muslim who converts to christianity
Fair enough, but it's not choice for everyone...perhaps it's innate.
it could be developed actualized or innate
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