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First of all my neighbor and I have a history of about 50 yrs ago when we were going out and having fun, dancing, boy scouting and doing what young women did years back.
Then along the way she embraced and got herself "born again". Read the bible for years, literally was in her apt 24 hrs reading.
The change is dramatic, traumatic and she is now dealing with a cataract surgery gone wrong and I'm trying to help her with ideas on what to do. She owns a piece of property in our our town some millions but won't do anything with it although she could use some money and especially now with these eye(s) and needs to get out of HMO and to some other specialists.
Anyway, yesterday I was talking to her and she says there are demons in her apt and do I know a witchdoctor and I said no, but said I do use a pendulum and she thinks that is witchcraft. Ugh ugh....
So today, I see a cross painted on her front door with like a dripping paint off the cross. What is she doing? Is this like an Exorcism?
I gave her a note and said if she does not want any of my help, get some sage and burn it to get rid of what she feels are evil spirits.
Should I be fearing what she's doing? Had to get this off my chest.
you should understand this is a mental issue and decipher any dangers associated with that.
Thanks and I agree but our friend ship has grown miles apart in the years she took on the fundie world she's now in. She and I have nothing in common but 50 yrs past history. But I do want her to keep her sight and that's what I've tried to tell her what I have. But she's her boss.
Seems like she needs a psychiatrist rather than a witch-doctor.
Some psychiatrists are witch doctors. Combining therapeutic with cultural.
Ugh, sadly, I won't even get into the practice-bias that county Legal Court oversight has over medical practices. A necessary evil, due to lack of better capability, I suppose.
But I am wondering on a slight side note: why would people want to call themselves witch doctors when they are not especially Wiccan? Do they think the word "witch" just means "magic/spirit/karma" or something?
Spoiler
One might even presuppose that even wicca just means "wise masculine," but in Spanish, the "witch doctors" often simply call themselves "curanderos" meaning "man-healers/fixers in the masculine" and their word for "witch" is "bruja" (pronounced "brooha") which likely comes from the Jewish phrase for "blessed are you..." Baruch ata (pronounced close to "baruh atah").
Why "witch doctor" if they don't have any sort of acceptable doctorate nor strict/honest allegiance to Wicca?
Why not "faith healers" or "spiritual healers,"?
I even prefer the moniker of "medicine-men." They might even get less flack (from the violent and mouth-foaming among the Christians and Muslims) for it as well.
Ugh, sadly, I won't even get into the practice-bias that county Legal Court oversight has over medical practices. A necessary evil, due to lack of better capability, I suppose.
But I am wondering on a slight side note: why would people want to call themselves witch doctors when they are not especially Wiccan? Do they think the word "witch" just means "magic/spirit/karma" or something?
Spoiler
One might even presuppose that even wicca just means "wise masculine," but in Spanish, the "witch doctors" often simply call themselves "curanderos" meaning "man-healers/fixers in the masculine" and their word for "witch" is "bruja" (pronounced "brooha") which likely comes from the Jewish phrase for "blessed are you..." Baruch ata (pronounced close to "baruh atah").
Why "witch doctor" if they don't have any sort of acceptable doctorate nor strict/honest allegiance to Wicca?
Why not "faith healers" or "spiritual healers,"?
I even prefer the moniker of "medicine-men."
Pretty sure the term "witch doctor" predates Wicca.
Ugh, sadly, I won't even get into the practice-bias that county Legal Court oversight has over medical practices. A necessary evil, due to lack of better capability, I suppose.
But I am wondering on a slight side note: why would people want to call themselves witch doctors when they are not especially Wiccan? Do they think the word "witch" just means "magic/spirit/karma" or something?
Spoiler
One might even presuppose that even wicca just means "wise masculine," but in Spanish, the "witch doctors" often simply call themselves "curanderos" meaning "man-healers/fixers in the masculine" and their word for "witch" is "bruja" (pronounced "brooha") which likely comes from the Jewish phrase for "blessed are you..." Baruch ata (pronounced close to "baruh atah").
Why "witch doctor" if they don't have any sort of acceptable doctorate nor strict/honest allegiance to Wicca?
Why not "faith healers" or "spiritual healers,"?
I even prefer the moniker of "medicine-men." They might even get less flack (from the violent and mouth-foaming among the Christians and Muslims) for it as well.
All the same. The name is more of a cultural expectation. It is entirely possible to have respect for cultural beliefs and be involved in psychiatry, psychology, social work, medical, religion. herbalists, and energy workers.
It is all about respecting cultural beliefs. Someone looking for a witch-doctor has specific expectation and need.
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Thanks for all your comments on this issue. A friend was over my house yesterday and I brought this up to her and she said and I agree, why doesn't my neighbor have all her church people come into her apt and work to dash out the evils she believes are there. The next time we talk, I never know, I'll make that comment, her church friends.
Pretty sure the term "witch doctor" predates Wicca.
I'm sure that "witch doctor" happened sometime after the establishment of "doctors" and "witches" in the Puritan times. Sure. No need for a brouhaha (bruja (sp.) = witch (en.)).
The difference would be if by Wicca you mean the popularized form of neopaganism/supernaturalism that started in England in the 1950s. But I meant the "wicca" where the word "witch" might actually come from. Which although the exact origins are mysterious, I believe it had to do with "wise" people who kept to old folk magic traditions stemming from Celts and their various Druid practices.
And modern Wiccans have done great and faithful work to establish "witch" as an emblem for themselves.
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In its original meaning, witch doctors were emphatically not witches themselves, but rather people who had remedies to protect others against witchcraft. Witchcraft-induced conditions were their area of expertise, as described in this 1858 news report from England: "Recourse was had by the girl's parents to a cunning man, named Burrell, residing at Copford, who has long borne the name of "The Wizard of the North:" but her case was of so peculiar a character as to baffle his skill to dissolve the spell, Application was next made to a witch doctor named Murrell, residing at Hadleigh, Essex, who undertook to effect a cure, giving a bottle of medication, for which he did not forget to charge 3s. 6d., and promising to pay a visit on Monday evening to the "old witch," Mrs. Mole, and put an end to her subtle arts... ... the news of the expected coming of the witch-doctor spread far and wide, and about eight o'clock there could not have been less than 200 people collected near the cottage of Mrs. Mole to witness the supernatural powers of the Hadleigh wizard."
You're a wizard, Harry, you FIGHT witches!
What a bunch of drunkards, not wize-men at all.
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