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they can't wrap their head around the notion that atoms move the way do in you because of you "living".
This kind of intellectual exploration is beyond what they are comfortable engaging. It requires a level of abstract thinking that seems to make them very uncomfortable and well out of their comfort zones.
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trans actually gets it. He just has to answer to anti-religion dogma that demands he deny anything he doesn't like. Just like omega actually.
Normally, I would agree with you because Arq does seem to follow this kind of thinking though he doesn't attribute much value or credit to it. Unfortunately, his latest post belies my normal confidence in his mental acquity.
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle they can't wrap their head around the notion that atoms move the way do in you because of you "living".
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Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes
What does this even mean?
Probably that since the human body is made up of 99% Atoms; and everything in the 4% of the universe is made up of Atoms; and "energy" contains 0% Atoms...the other 96% of the universal body containing no atoms? yet, being a "Body of stuff;" the Atoms in the human body only looks up at the sky, and or, raises his arms up high above his head is doing it because of his own living willpower. Not because the atoms decided anything...and all the Atoms in his human body took off running because: Not their decision. I willed to do; Atoms did what? Yes they did...Why? "Energy." Why does a human body go for a run? The 0% Atoms of "will to run" existed.
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This kind of intellectual exploration is beyond what they are comfortable engaging. It requires a level of abstract thinking that seems to make them very uncomfortable and well out of their comfort zones. Normally, I would agree with you because Arq does seem to follow this kind of thinking though he doesn't attribute much value or credit to it. Unfortunately, his latest post belies my normal confidence in his mental acquity.
yeah ... I shouldn't have said ... "doesn't like it" that doesn't describe him correctly.
I should say "he totally understands what I said but he has to minimize that science because it doesn't fit his statement of belief about religious/god. Just like omega X has to do with science."
OK, it was just another meaningless, irrelevant statement used to attack.
as I have said before harry ol' eastern block chum.
You don't understand, thats where you need to start.
If you knew anything about the sciences you would understand that I look at people and the mixture of personalities they have. I then predict how those mixtures would express beliefs. Like theism or atheism.
The "meaningless" attack, is merely pointing out to people that we have anti-religous/god in out atheist ranks and we don't have to listen to them. We may have to use them as cannon fodder, but past that we need to keep an eye on them. We need to watch them like we watch nuclear power plants.
I will just have to assume you had no clue what was being argued and had no answer because this is non-responsive.
no, he has a clue. trans, harry, raf, and a few others are not in this for the same reasons we are.
He is intentionally denying it because he and his groupies (group: iron curtain)are on a crusade against religion/god. they are going to save us westerners because they know whats best for us.
he will not repeat what he said to me because he knows just how stupid it was.
he said "although valid, we need to deny it so theist can't use it and make atheism harder to sell."
that is telling. And when I called him on it ... raf have to DM him and tell him to "get out of there you are losing."
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle they can't wrap their head around the notion that atoms move the way do in you because of you "living".
Probably that since the human body is made up of 99% Atoms; and everything in the 4% of the universe is made up of Atoms; and "energy" contains 0% Atoms...the other 96% of the universal body containing no atoms? yet, being a "Body of stuff;" the Atoms in the human body only looks up at the sky, and or, raises his arms up high above his head is doing it because of his own living willpower. Not because the atoms decided anything...and all the Atoms in his human body took off running because: Not their decision. I willed to do; Atoms did what? Yes they did...Why? "Energy." Why does a human body go for a run? The 0% Atoms of "will to run" existed.
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what it means is that atoms move around in you because of your "living". are we moving around because of the biosphere's "living".
that is top down thinking.
now to cross check, can we go from bottom up?
Atoms interacting following the natural laws, form you.
either way we slice it, it debunks anti-religious/god sect of atheism as just another fundy think group trying to force a belief on us through 1/2 truths. And when we see that? they will use deceit. when that doesn't work, they will kills us. like hilter and stalin types.
as I have said before harry ol' eastern block chum.
You don't understand, thats where you need to start.
If you knew anything about the sciences you would understand that I look at people and the mixture of personalities they have. I then predict how those mixtures would express beliefs. Like theism or atheism.
The "meaningless" attack, is merely pointing out to people that we have anti-religous/god in out atheist ranks and we don't have to listen to them. We may have to use them as cannon fodder, but past that we need to keep an eye on them. We need to watch them like we watch nuclear power plants.
You all need you own island or seperate planet. I don't understand why more anti-people aren't pursuing space colonization.
You all need you own island or seperate planet. I don't understand why more anti-people aren't pursuing space colonization.
you need to be a little more precise in the wording. grab, you have the easy part. just sit back and tell what we should be doing without ever clarifying your position.
what side are you on?
fundamentally ... freedom of all religions with liberty and justice for all?
fundy think ... anti-religious/god?
fundy think ... my god only?
you need to be a little more precise in the wording. grab, you have the easy part. just sit back and tell what we should be doing without ever clarifying your position.
what side are you on?
fundamentally ... freedom of all religions with liberty and justice for all?
fundy think ... anti-religious/god?
fundy think ... my god only?
YOU know how the universe works, why not colonize it? The side I'm on, if there such a thing, is anti-communism...no matter how anyone tries to serve/justify it.
This kind of intellectual exploration is beyond what they are comfortable engaging. It requires a level of abstract thinking that seems to make them very uncomfortable and well out of their comfort zones.
You are pretending Arach said something profound.
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