The Beginning of Life (genesis, quote, Christian, evolution)
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Yep and nothing changes in doing that. You either don't understand what I posted or your inferred something that's not there. The only thing I left out was a question mark. Since you claimed the authors stated 530 Ma I questioned it without inserting a question mark but I thought the remaining sentence I wrote would make that clear to you that I was questioning your claims.
These authors claim it spanned over 530 million years?????? I would have to either read the book or confirm with the authors themselves to find out what they actually said.
Do the question marks make it easier for you to understand I was questioning your claims? The second sentence clearly shows I was.
Nice try but your full quote shows something else. If you where asking a question you would not have started out with "you poor thing" "You simply don't understand what Ma means in years."
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Originally Posted by Matadora
You poor thing. You simply don't understand what Ma means in years.
530 Ma = 530 Million years. Yep, that's plenty of time for all major animal phyla to start appearing in the fossil record.
These authors claim it spanned over 530 million years. I would have to either read the book or confirm with the authors themselves to find out what they actually said.
Doug Erwin is currently Senior Scientist and Curator of Paleobiology at the National Museum of Natural History of the Smithsonian Institution in Washington D. C, and has been since 1990. He has also been a Senior Scientist since 2004. His primary research interests are in evolutionary novelty and innovation across biological, cultural and technological domains; the evolution of animal regulatory genomes; the origin and early evolution of animals; and the end-Permian mass extinction. [Bolding mine]
Erwin believes in evolution. Here is a review of his book ''The Cambrian Exolosion: the Constuction of Animal Biodiversity.
In The Cambrian Explosion, two paleontologists, Douglas Erwin and his former dissertation advisor James Valentine, document the explosion of diversity in the Cambrian, and the events leading up to it, in lavishly illustrated detail. This story begins with the origin about two billion years ago — by an Archaean incorporating bacterial symbionts capable of aerobic respiration — of eukaryotes. Transforming bacterial symbionts into the microscopic power plants we call mitochondria made possible the evolution of large multicellular organisms with division of labor among their cells (Lane and Martin [2010]). After outlining the plan of their book, they explain how one infers an evolutionary narrative from the geological record — how one tells the relative, and the absolute, ages of widely separated fossil deposits. They end the book's first section by discussing the environmental events (including two episodes when nearly all the earth froze!) associated with the gradual oxygenation of first the atmosphere, then the ocean, that set the stage for the explosive diversification of fossilizable life.
I thought you knew something about this stuff, your really looking bad here Matadora. they are not saying the Cambrian explosion was 530MA (and yes I know it mean million of years) they are saying the Cambrian explosion took place between 530 to 520 Ma. that is a span of 10Ma.
A couple of hours ago I asked you what your background in this area was. Why aren't you answering?
In my far distant past I taught earth science for 13 years. And that included "earth history". I heard lots of people say they were against evolution based on their religious beliefs, and when I asked them to explain evolution...not a one could. It's relevant.
The information on those sites are short on facts and long on speculation. That includes creation.org, intelligentdesign.org, the Institute for Creation Research icr.org, and others. Along with Ken Ham's ridiculous Ark Encounter and Answers In Genesis (and others), these are all simply attempts to disguise religion as science so it can be used as a way to force schools to teach religion to kids.
Fossils are real. Some of them are impressions of life forms that no longer exist. Some of them are from life forms related to species that currently live. Those provide some evidence for evolution.
You’re a very opinionated mod, on the topic of religion, but you keep your own perspective on reality a secret. Your worldview, in your profile, is “never revealed.” That seems very convenient for critiquing others beliefs while never having to defend your own. It doesn’t seem fair for a mod to interject his criticism of religious beliefs on a religion forum, especially when you keep your own beliefs so hidden. Unfair playing field.
Nice try but your full quote shows something else. If you where asking a question you would not have started out with "you poor thing" "You simply don't understand what Ma means in years."
Yes and I still say you poor thing that you did not know what Ma meant. LOL
You were trying to dismiss me correcting you once again by mentioning that the Cambrian Explosion took place over 13-25 million years which is indeed enough time for all major animal phyla to start appearing in the fossil record.
You come back with these silly comments: "And your wrong on the dates, Erwin and Valentine give the brief geological time as 530 to 520 Ma. "You have to stretch the time l line and even then that is not enough time."
You think 530 million years, or 520 million years or even 10 million years is evidence against the fact that the Cambrian Explosion occurred over a span of 13-25 million years?
The only conclusion one can draw from your silly comments is that you don't know what Ma stands for!
You should try bettering following your own posts.
You’re a very opinionated mod, on the topic of religion, but you keep your own perspective on reality a secret. Your worldview, in your profile, is “never revealed.” That seems very convenient for critiquing others beliefs while never having to defend your own. It doesn’t seem fair for a mod to interject his criticism of religious beliefs on a religion forum, especially when you keep your own beliefs so hidden. Unfair playing field.
It's not your forum to run.
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