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Old 11-02-2020, 12:02 PM
 
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Discuss your thoughts. Should children be able to choose what to believe and develop critical thinking and reasoning skills and not just have them spoonfed whatever the parents believe?

For reference, lets define indoctrination as teaching someone to accept a set of beliefs without questioning them

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Old 11-02-2020, 12:04 PM
 
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Yes. But every thing a child learns, from their parents, siblings, school, church, friends, TV, music, pets, etc. Is indoctrination. That is how humans learn.
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Old 11-02-2020, 12:06 PM
 
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Yes. But every thing a child learns, from their parents, siblings, school, church, friends, TV, music, pets, etc. Is indoctrination. That is how humans learn.
Every child learns all these things without questioning them? Learning things in school are simply beliefs? I think you have a different definition of indoctrination than I do.
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Old 11-02-2020, 12:46 PM
 
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Yes. it is. Though, you go to religious leaders and, they will tell you that, it is god given parents responsibility to do so.



There is very nice passage from OSHO on this. He talks baout his childhood, up to age 7, when most of a human is formed. He says that, he was left with his grandparents and, they, pretty much, let him roam around and grow as he wanted to, without any pressure. OSHO says that, one day, years later, he asked his "nana", why he dis so. Response was - I simply wanted you to be you, not me influencing you.
OSHO says that, in those times he had his first moments of enlightenment.
He, also, mentioned that, his father hated OSHO grandfather for doing this, as OSHO father was orthodox religious person (OSHO was born Janac) and believed that, "nana" ruined his son.
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Old 11-02-2020, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I think parents can teach children what they believe without saying, "And this is what you have to believe, too!" I actually think it would be rather silly for parents to cart their kids around from one religion's worship services to another. I was raised to feel that it was entirely acceptable to question what I heard taught in church, and that nobody (at least not my parents or God) was going to have a stroke if I came to a different conclusion as to what was true and what wasn't.
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Old 11-02-2020, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Unfortunately, most parents don't believe or encourage freedom of thought.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:18 PM
 
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Discuss your thoughts. Should children be able to choose what to believe and develop critical thinking and reasoning skills and not just have them spoonfed whatever the parents believe?

For reference, lets define indoctrination as teaching someone to accept a set of beliefs without questioning them
yeah, I teach mine to be nice, not steal, and help people.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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It's hilarious how these threads reveal a certain poster sitting around all weekend thinking of topics to make faith / religion / spirituality look bad, and how they constantly fail. LOL Give it a rest dude.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:23 PM
 
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I didn't "cart" my children from one religion to another.
They made their own spiritual decisions, when they arrived at necessity of one in their lives.
Though, in both cases, I am very much so suspicious, their then new wives had much to say on it, as they both came from Pentecostal families.

Now, what I do see is the older DIL is clearly forcing religious things onto my grandson.
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Old 11-02-2020, 02:35 PM
 
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It's hilarious how these threads reveal a certain poster sitting around all weekend thinking of topics to make faith / religion / spirituality look bad, and how they constantly fail. LOL Give it a rest dude.
as an atheist, this one is like the most embarrassing flanking maneuver.

BTW ... I mean the indoctrination thing, not your post.

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