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I really do not think many people have the time and/or interest to invest into what others believe unless it somehow affects them. One of the ways people may affect others without realizing it is through feelings of rejection "If you believe so and so, that means you reject me."
We don't necessarily have to fully understand everyone's views down to the last detail, but we do need to accept that free will means others will have different choices and beliefs and that good people can choose differently.
I am a vegetarian, my husband eats meat. No big deal. Neither are rejecting the other side.
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I like that. Sometimes the 'Cosmic Origins' argument will (not often ) get to "Suppose there is a creator -god? Which one?" (not quoting anyone in particular) and they say: "It's all the same God". Which again kicks the question down the road - Which one? The implication being that the god (if it exists) is the god of all religions or none, and any path is the 'relationship', even if it is the path of non - belief.
All religions have truths and connections to God, it doesn't matter "which one" it matters if you are serving God and you serve God by serving fellow humans. Atheists in this way and others have connections to God as well.
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According to the Bible does godthing have a favorite?
It depends on one's interpretations of that book and what one believes it is.
Jesus, a Jew, never argued theology with non-Jews, nor did he condemn non-Jews for not being Jews. He in fact helped non-Jews and said that their righteous would dine in heaven.
I like that. Sometimes the 'Cosmic Origins' argument will (not often ) get to "Suppose there is a creator -god? Which one?" (not quoting anyone in particular) and they say: "It's all the same God". Which again kicks the question down the road - Which one? The implication being that the god (if it exists) is the god of all religions or none, and any path is the 'relationship', even if it is the path of non - belief.
You are starting to get it, Arq. All the confusion, contradictions, and inconsistencies are the result of our human flaws, fallibility, perversity, and ignorance. Your humanism and angst about the rejection of the religious nonsense (sooty rags) are attributable to the influence of God within.
According to the Bible does godthing have a favorite?
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We don't necessarily have to fully understand everyone's views down to the last detail, but we do need to accept that free will means others will have different choices and beliefs and that good people can choose differently.
I am a vegetarian, my husband eats meat. No big deal. Neither are rejecting the other side.
All religions have truths and connections to God, it doesn't matter "which one" it matters if you are serving God and you serve God by serving fellow humans. Atheists in this way and others have connections to God as well.
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Originally Posted by QuakerBaker
It depends on one's interpretations of that book and what one believes it is.
Jesus, a Jew, never argued theology with non-Jews, nor did he condemn non-Jews for not being Jews. He in fact helped non-Jews and said that their righteous would dine in heaven.
Religion should never be about trying to be superior to other religions. Religion should simply be about trying to have a better relationship with God, which in turn makes us better people. People acting in their best character wouldn't try to look down on others' religious views.
All religions are manifestations of connections to God.
I like that. Sometimes the 'Cosmic Origins' argument will (not often ) get to "Suppose there is a creator -god? Which one?" (not quoting anyone in particular) and they say: "It's all the same God". Which again kicks the question down the road - Which one? The implication being that the god (if it exists) is the god of all religions or none, and any path is the 'relationship', even if it is the path of non - belief.
You are starting to get it, Arq. All the confusion, contradictions, and inconsistencies are the result of our human flaws, fallibility, perversity, and ignorance. Your humanism and angst about the rejection of the religious nonsense (sooty rags) are attributable to the influence of God within.
how about him learning. I actually think he knows. He is way to insightful for me to think otherwise. maybe he is retiring from the fight and just going to live.
We don't necessarily have to fully understand everyone's views down to the last detail, but we do need to accept that free will means others will have different choices and beliefs and that good people can choose differently.
I am a vegetarian, my husband eats meat. No big deal. Neither are rejecting the other side.
All religions have truths and connections to God, it doesn't matter "which one" it matters if you are serving God and you serve God by serving fellow humans. Atheists in this way and others have connections to God as well.
It depends on one's interpretations of that book and what one believes it is.
Jesus, a Jew, never argued theology with non-Jews, nor did he condemn non-Jews for not being Jews. He in fact helped non-Jews and said that their righteous would dine in heaven.
It’s a book. You can run a test to see whether or not the bible exists. So the question is misleading. Why do you care about taking the time to talk about something you don’t believe in? You have to trust what people tell or show you to believe it to be true. Yes things have been flawed within it, but that doesn’t mean the whole thing is wasteful as you imply.
In a nation where a majority of the people profess to believe in god, and say that this nation exists "under god", and where a majority of those people believe it is incumbent on christians to "spread the word" (even if they may not personally do that), there is plenty of good reason for atheists to be involved in the discussions about christianity. Freedom of religion and freedom from religion are two sides of the same coin.
We don't necessarily have to fully understand everyone's views down to the last detail, but we do need to accept that free will means others will have different choices and beliefs and that good people can choose differently.
Diversified learning is usually a great thing. My point was that it's not about accepting and/or rejecting. The average person doesn't have the luxury of time/energy to invest in what others believe.
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I am a vegetarian, my husband eats meat. No big deal. Neither are rejecting the other side.
That's how it usually works when no one feels threatened in any manner by the other's behaviors and/or notions.
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) get to "Suppose there is a creator -god? Which one?" (not quoting anyone in particular) and they say: "It's all the same God". Which again kicks the question down the road - Which one? The implication being that the god (if it exists) is the god of all religions or none, and any path is the 'relationship', even if it is the path of non - belief.
