Why do some people make such bad arguments for the Superiority of their Religion? (bishop, Catholic)
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Just to be clear, I am not advocating my religion over any others in this post. I am pushing for the advocacy of civilized values by any supportable religion.
Which is fair enough. I am advocating for such civilised values in any religion, or none.
Just to be clear, I am not advocating my religion over any others in this post. I am pushing for the advocacy of civilized values by any supportable religion.
For example, how can the religious claim that their books are from the word of God when they have never had the originals and their books are nothing more than copies of copies that have been changed, altered and edited thousands of times?
Everyone makes arguments for the "undeniable" veracity of their own religious beliefs consistent with the doctrine of that religious belief. "Bad arguments," in other words arguments made by the believers of any particular religion that have been examined and rejected as invalid or erroneous by those who do not subscribe to the religious belief in question, apply to EVERY religious belief. Every religious person is certain that religious beliefs other than their own are based on "bad arguments." But certainly this does not apply to their own beliefs.
I am quite happy with that, not that you need my approval. But I would like to ask if I may, not to challenge you or anything but just out of interest, why do you believe what you do?
I have a choice of believing or not believing. Believing brings me comfort in disquiet times. There are many things I do not understand. Having belief in a higher power and force allows me to process these times and provide a context for the unexplainable. They also provide me with a link to those who came before and those who will come after. My beliefs encourage me to be a person of whom I am proud. I try to avoid actions, thoughts, and words that would shame me and my beliefs.
I don't try to convince anyone else of my beliefs; I don't "spread the word". My beliefs are personal and I rarely share them with others.
I doubt it will make you believe in the Bible. That is also not my aim. I am sure you would never hurt a handicapped person if your online demeanor is any guide. Which is a good thing.
I have a choice of believing or not believing. Believing brings me comfort in disquiet times. There are many things I do not understand. Having belief in a higher power and force allows me to process these times and provide a context for the unexplainable. They also provide me with a link to those who came before and those who will come after. My beliefs encourage me to be a person of whom I am proud. I try to avoid actions, thoughts, and words that would shame me and my beliefs.
I don't try to convince anyone else of my beliefs; I don't "spread the word". My beliefs are personal and I rarely share them with others.
I am sure that we are happy that you find comfort in your religion (which you 'rarely' share with others). But inasmuch as you have posted your belief here, I (for one) have also posted that Faith is not a good reason to believe anything and 'comfort' is a good reason only for the believer.
Others find comfort in their religions, too and I feel that rational secularism relieves me of a great deal of stress in believing what is validated by sound evidence and logical reasoning and not constantly naving to block off doubts and questions..which i welcome about anything - even rational secularism.
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Originally Posted by jbgusa
I doubt it will make you believe in the Bible. That is also not my aim. I am sure you would never hurt a handicapped person if your online demeanor is any guide. Which is a good thing.
I would risk a large bet that no poster here (that I can think of) would do such a thing, religious or not. Which suggests to me that morals are not due to religion.
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I am sure that we are happy that you find comfort in your religion (which you 'rarely' share with others). But inasmuch as you have posted your belief here, I (for one) have also posted that Faith is not a good reason to believe anything and 'comfort' is a good reason only for the believer.
Others find comfort in their religions, too and I feel that rational secularism relieves me of a great deal of stress in believing what is validated by sound evidence and logical reasoning and not constantly naving to block off doubts and questions..which i welcome about anything - even rational secularism.
I would risk a large bet that no poster here (that I can think of) would do such a thing, religious or not. Which suggests to me that morals are not due to religion.
I find that faith is an excellent reason to believe and beliefs that bring comfort to the believer are very worthy.
Fortunately, your beliefs and your thoughts are yours and yours alone.
I find that faith is an excellent reason to believe and beliefs that bring comfort to the believer are very worthy.
Fortunately, your beliefs and your thoughts are yours and yours alone.
I'm happy to accept that view, but the two viewpoints have been expressed here and browsers can make up their own minds. Evidence (or lack of it) or Faith.
I have a choice of believing or not believing. Believing brings me comfort in disquiet times. There are many things I do not understand. Having belief in a higher power and force allows me to process these times and provide a context for the unexplainable. They also provide me with a link to those who came before and those who will come after. My beliefs encourage me to be a person of whom I am proud. I try to avoid actions, thoughts, and words that would shame me and my beliefs.
I don't try to convince anyone else of my beliefs; I don't "spread the word". My beliefs are personal and I rarely share them with others.
Last night I realized this. One of the main reasons for the religious to believe in the after life is because it brings comfort. Because sitting around pondering the fact that you will no longer exist after death is utterly terrifying and frightening to the point of giving you debilitating anxiety attacks.
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