Spirituality and Atheism. What does it mean to you? (godless, difference, atheists)
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The divine is within me and so is not so divine. I think it's about accepting that not so divine so it stops causing problems. That's all it wants anyway.
Not in the way Adviata (Non-dual) looks at it. There IS only one and you ARE within it and one with it and it is Truth, Goodness, and Equanimity/Love. Anything else is outside of you, not-you. That not so divine comes from a state of ignorance of one's true nature and spirituality is the cure to remove ignorance.
One way I look at spirituality is as mental hygiene and discipline, and that I need a bit of help in achieving both.
On the order of 10^5 particles, and thats just one type, go through every square inch of your body every second from the sun. it doesn't matter if the sun is directly above you or on the other side of the planet. That part is less than 1% of the 5% that we know about. Whatever it is, it passes through us like a warm breeze through a screen. Or maybe its the other way around.
And we are going to actually try and defend nothing more [things]. Its just inconceivable that some atheist deny everything we know and/or theist make it a deity.
Your unwillingness to accept and understand that it isn't only religionists who experience spirituality is your disability. Your hostility and anger towards those who don't wallow in woo is palpable. Own it.
Your unwillingness to accept and understand that it isn't only religionists who experience spirituality is your disability. Your hostility and anger towards those who don't wallow in woo is palpable. Own it.
True. It seems that Tzaph considers spirituality ONLY to apply to her many "wooish" beliefs, Trout.
Not in the way Adviata (Non-dual) looks at it. There IS only one and you ARE within it and one with it and it is Truth, Goodness, and Equanimity/Love. Anything else is outside of you, not-you. That not so divine comes from a state of ignorance of one's true nature and spirituality is the cure to remove ignorance.
One way I look at spirituality is as mental hygiene and discipline, and that I need a bit of help in achieving both.
I had to look up Advaita. Is it a deity or is it a concept? Saying the not so divine is outside sounds like duality so I'm going to go ahead and say that's not going to work for me. I believe it does come from a state of ignorance tho. I was ignorant that those actions/state of being were brought about by lashing out in pain and not some failing. Those actions might have been a reaction to the outside environment but they came from me. I accept all of that as part of my humanity.
The beauty of the way that Cruithne set up this thread is that he asked what does spirituality and atheism mean to "you".
Some might go by the dictionary definition. But I liked the opening paragraph on Wikipedia's page about spirituality. It's worth reading whether you like Wikipedia or not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality
We have some people here, led by Tzap, who are trying to claim that they essentially "own" spirituality. They don't. What they are really trying to say is we are special, only we have the answer, everyone else must yield the field. They aren't and they don't.
I had to look up Advaita. Is it a deity or is it a concept? Saying the not so divine is outside sounds like duality so I'm going to go ahead and say that's not going to work for me. I believe it does come from a state of ignorance tho. I was ignorant that those actions/state of being were brought about by lashing out in pain and not some failing. Those actions might have been a reaction to the outside environment but they came from me. I accept all of that as part of my humanity.
Advaita (Non-Dualism) is a school of Indian (Hindu) philosophy or thoughts, grounded in Vedic texts.
Its basic premise is that the we identify our self, as the body and mind and intellect, is not our true self. We are in our essence, which in Sanskrit language is called atma, is pure, ever effulgent, the one true thing that is eternal, transcends time and space. Its nature is peace, fullness, and love.
This space is too small to explain this any further.
The beauty of the way that Cruithne set up this thread is that he asked what does spirituality and atheism mean to "you".
Some might go by the dictionary definition. But I liked the opening paragraph on Wikipedia's page about spirituality. It's worth reading whether you like Wikipedia or not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality
We have some people here, led by Tzap, who are trying to claim that they essentially "own" spirituality. They don't. What they are really trying to say is we are special, only we have the answer, everyone else must yield the field. They aren't and they don't.
Maybe instead of focusing on people, if you allow yourself to think beyond a box you have constructed around you, you may actually gain something. Or it may be not.
Advaita (Non-Dualism) is a school of Indian (Hindu) philosophy or thoughts, grounded in Vedic texts.
Its basic premise is that the we identify our self, as the body and mind and intellect, is not our true self. We are in our essence, which in Sanskrit language is called atma, is pure, ever effulgent, the one true thing that is eternal, transcends time and space. Its nature is peace, fullness, and love.
This space is too small to explain this any further.
I can go along with all of that except the eternal part remains a mystery. How do you see the hurt that people cause each other? Where does that come from? Where do impulses come from that don't along from the divine?
The beauty of the way that Cruithne set up this thread is that he asked what does spirituality and atheism mean to "you". Some might go by the dictionary definition. But I liked the opening paragraph on Wikipedia's page about spirituality. It's worth reading whether you like Wikipedia or not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality We have some people here, ..., who are trying to claim that they essentially "own" spirituality. They don't. What they are really trying to say is we are special, only we have the answer, everyone else must yield the field. They aren't and they don't.
no, what i am pointing out is the proliferation of times when atheists claim "believers do this" how far off the mark those claims are. including the post above. and how they are NOT "saying what spirituality means for you" but saying what they imagine spirituality means to "believers" and being so far off the mark it is laughable. bold above is just another example of that.
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It seems that Tzaph considers spirituality ONLY to apply to her many "wooish" beliefs, Trout.
