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I don't see anything there that we can affirm as "fact".
the fact is
Allah said something will happen and it is happening
this is a fact
Over 1.84M pilgrims from 150 countries perform Haj 2023
1,660,915 pilgrims came to the Kingdom through various ports,
while the number of domestic pilgrims reached 184,130.
and similar statistics every year except the years of corona
and this is a related fact, a verse in the Holy Quran
And proclaim among men the Pilgrimage:
they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel, coming from every remote path,
In God we know that jesus was not crucified but it appeared so
And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,"
but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them
[the resemblance of 'Îsa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)],
and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge,
they follow nothing but conjecture.
For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) عليهما السلام]:
in 1938 it appeared to the american that they are under invaders and under attack from the martians
Last edited by truth_teller; 08-02-2023 at 06:39 AM..
the fact is
Allah said something will happen and it is happening
this is a fact
Over 1.84M pilgrims from 150 countries perform Haj 2023
1,660,915 pilgrims came to the Kingdom through various ports,
while the number of domestic pilgrims reached 184,130.
and similar statistics every year except the years of corona
and this is a related fact, a verse in the Holy Quran
And proclaim among men the Pilgrimage:
they will come to you on foot and on every lean camel, coming from every remote path,
That means a lot to you...because you're a Muslim. It means pretty much nothing to a non-Muslim.
I have ZERO respect for those mere humans who believe that God needs them to enforce His laws and administer human punishments for them!!! What hubris and self-righteousness!! God has no need of your enforcement nor is He likely to treat you kindly for having engaged in it!! We have no authority to enforce God's laws on anyone but OURSELVES, period!!!
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Originally Posted by LearnMe
I don't have much more respect for anyone who wants to suggest they know the first thing about what such a thing is, is not, or better than the next person who wants to claim knowledge or insight about such a thing. Hardly different than complaining about a dog barking, as if one dog's bark is all that different from the next all considered. Listen to all of them and for long enough, and they all end up sounding like the same thing...
That you have no respect for the bold is beyond confusing for an atheist. I would have thought that is exactly what you would want believers to think. Oh well, you tend to have your own reasons for perverse reactions and lack of respect for others.
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