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Old 07-24-2023, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So why do you?
I thought these were lessons

 
Old 07-24-2023, 10:38 PM
 
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So why do you?
when someone hit another one then the another one should not be blamed if he hit the one who hit him in the exact way

 
Old 07-24-2023, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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when someone hit another one then the another one should not be blamed if he hit the one who hit him in the exact way
And that's why it never stops. And that's why the Middle East is in a constant state of turmoil.

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Old 07-24-2023, 11:02 PM
 
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I thought these were lessons
they are lessons and guidance and judgments from the creator.
Allah the only god.
Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation,
and reason with them in the better way.
Lo! thy Lord is Best Aware of him who strayeth from His way,
and He is Best Aware of those who go aright.
If ye punish, then punish with the like of that wherewith ye were afflicted.
But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient.

Endure thou patiently (O Muhammad).
Thine endurance is only by (the help of) Allah.
Grieve not for them, and be not in distress because of that which they devise.
Lo! Allah is with those who keep their duty unto Him and those who are doers of good.
 
Old 07-24-2023, 11:16 PM
 
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And that's why it never stops. And that's why the Middle East is in a constant state or turmoil.
No that is not the reason .
the reason is because they are not going by the book the Holy Quran.

And if two parties or groups among the believers fall to fighting,
then make peace between them both.
But if one of them outrages against the other,
then fight you (all) against the one that which outrages till it complies with the Command of Allah.
Then if it complies, then make reconciliation between them justly,
and be equitable.
Verily! Allah loves those who are the equitable.
 
Old 07-24-2023, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No that is not the reason .
the reason is because they are not going by the book the Holy Quran.

And if two parties or groups among the believers fall to fighting,
then make peace between them both.
But if one of them outrages against the other,
then fight you (all) against the one that which outrages till it complies with the Command of Allah.
Then if it complies, then make reconciliation between them justly,
and be equitable.
Verily! Allah loves those who are the equitable.
And there is no reason for non-Muslims to go by the Muslim holy book, and more than there is a reason for you to go by Jewish scripture or christian scripture.

There's an old saying that when everyone practices 'an eye for an eye', everyone ends up blind.

It is estimated that about 4.5 million people have died in Middle Eastern fighting. Congratulations. Be proud.
 
Old 07-25-2023, 02:53 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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It is estimated that about 4.5 million people have died in Middle Eastern fighting.
I don't guess Ishmael ever did get over being kicked out of the house, huh?
 
Old 07-25-2023, 10:08 AM
 
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I don't guess Ishmael ever did get over being kicked out of the house, huh?
Sibling rivalry at the individual level is a deep-seated animosity if it has been allowed to fester into adulthood. Apparently, that is also true of entire groups within species. Sad, very sad.
 
Old 07-25-2023, 10:55 PM
 
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And there is no reason for non-Muslims to go by the Muslim holy book, and more than there is a reason for you to go by Jewish scripture or christian scripture.

There's an old saying that when everyone practices 'an eye for an eye', everyone ends up blind.

It is estimated that about 4.5 million people have died in Middle Eastern fighting. Congratulations. Be proud.

The main message of Moses and Jesus is to obey Allah,
in other word to submit to Allah and that is Islam

Islam is submission To Allah ,

The religion of Moses is submission To Allah = Islam
The religion of Jesus is submission To Allah = Islam


the correct religion is only one and that is submission to Allah and that is Islam.

the idea is not to obey Moses or Jesus or Muhammed
the idea is to obey Allah the only god who sent them
and Allah said obey Muhammed.
 
Old 07-26-2023, 03:56 AM
 
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The main message of Moses and Jesus is to obey Allah,
in other word to submit to Allah and that is Islam

Islam is submission To Allah ,

The religion of Moses is submission To Allah = Islam
The religion of Jesus is submission To Allah = Islam


the correct religion is only one and that is submission to Allah and that is Islam.
Apart from the other two you have said are the same, Judaism and Christianity, both are submission to their (and your) god.

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the idea is not to obey Moses or Jesus or Muhammed
the idea is to obey Allah the only god who sent them
and Allah said obey Muhammed.
According to Muhammed, who allegedly had his instructions from an angel in a cave.
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