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You give a lot of credit to God messing into our lives. I was of the belief (only a belief),
that He left the whole place to us to manage.
Also, but this I know from exp, there is a Formula for prayer...one part, so not to be mysterious or coy...
for example...if the person, in there unconscious mind has a smidgen of doubt - or
they are holding, also, a subconscious belief they do not deserve what they are asking for, for example ..
Forget it. It won't happen.
Not that this has to do with God ---it's LOA - Law of Attraction ...any atheist can test it...
you've placed a block, you see, for 'the Universe ' to have it come about.
There are books on this The Power of Belief or The Power of the Mind, You Are What You Think, and so on.
(Take God out of the equation entirely - WE have the power to bring things about...believing is so powerful!)
The fun thing is no one has to believe ME ---it can be tested. It's the old:
If you believe you can't; you're right.
If you believe you can; you're right.
*I have Firefox, also ...I preview and fix every post. Not for me, for others.
Jesus commanded Christians to spread the gospel to every part of the world, right?
Missionaries WANT desperately to spread the gospel, right?
Missionaries need money to spread the gospel, right?
But very little money is going to the missionaries to do what Jesus commanded them to do, right?
So why do you think God doesn't allow a missionary to win the Lottery? Doesn't have to be 2 billion. Even a million would go along way. Hundreds of people win a million dollars every day in this godforsaken country. Why don't any missionaries win some?
Incidentally 80 of my posts are space corrected. Look at the OP. But occasionally one gets by me in my haste to get an answer up quickly.
Jesus commanded Christians to spread the gospel to every part of the world, right?
Missionaries WANT desperately to spread the gospel, right?
Missionaries need money to spread the gospel, right?
But very little money is going to the missionaries to do what Jesus commanded them to do, right?
So why do you think God doesn't allow a missionary to win the Lottery? Doesn't have to be 2 billion. Even a million would go along way. Hundreds of people win a million dollars every day in this godforsaken country. Why don't any missionaries win some?
Incidentally 80 of my posts are space corrected. Look at the OP. But occasionally one gets by me in my haste to get an answer up quickly.
That's a matter of interpretation. I've heard some say that when Jesus said to spread the Gospel, he was only addressing those he was speaking to, not to every Christian yet to be born.
Jesus commanded Christians to spread the gospel to every part of the world, right?
Missionaries WANT desperately to spread the gospel, right?
Missionaries need money to spread the gospel, right?
But very little money is going to the missionaries to do what Jesus commanded them to do, right?
So why do you think God doesn't allow a missionary to win the Lottery? Doesn't have to be 2 billion. Even a million would go along way. Hundreds of people win a million dollars every day in this godforsaken country. Why don't any missionaries win some?
Incidentally 80 of my posts are space corrected. Look at the OP. But occasionally one gets by me in my haste to get an answer up quickly.
You ARE aware that many Christians believe gambling is a sin...right?
Sorry my response to your other post is taking so long. My laptop bit the dust, so Im using my phone to post.
I can go along with that, Ruth. Bottom line, the missionary do-gooders should stay out of other people's backyards and stick with people who want them around. But it all goes back to that phony verse Mark 16:18 that corrupt churchmen added, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel".
Why do you think they added a promise that nothing would harm believers in Jesus that they knew Jesus could not keep? Was it to lure people into joining Christianity on the false promise Jesus would protect them from danger if they did join? What other reason could the church men have had for adding such a dumb thing to Mark's gospel?
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Originally Posted by thrillobyte
I'm glad you mention that, mensaguy because you bring out the crux of the problem:
Why do you think the scholars added that text about picking up snake and drinking poison and it not harming them?
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Originally Posted by thrillobyte
Mink, you're addressing the "how" of the issue. My question was WHY do you think the churchmen added to the text "And if you drink poison it shall not harm you?"
First of all, I'm not sure about who you consider to be "churchmen".
Secondly, did the "scholars" add to Mark? Do you know that for a fact?
What most scholars seem to believe today, is that Mark 1 through 16:8 was composed by one person. AND that Mark 16:9-20 was also composed by one person...but not the same person as who wrote the rest of Mark.
We also believe that MOST manuscripts have 9--20 in them, AND that Justin Martyr made the earliest reference to 9-20. So, while the Council of Trent put its stamp of approval on the passage as canon several hundred years later, it was obviously known, and in circulation well before then.
As to WHY the passage was written in the first place and/or WHY it was inserted at the end of Mark...doesn't really matter to me. I don't interpret the passage to refer to EVERY believer, and take it to correspond to the other passages I referenced earlier. I understand the passage to be more in a metaphorical sense...
That's a matter of interpretation. I've heard some say that when Jesus
said to spread the Gospel, he was only addressing those he was speaking to, not to every Christian yet to be born.
I know, right? Just as he told this ONE guy to sell everything and follow him..
Jesus wasn't talking to everyone...he knew this rich guy was super attached to his wealth...
so I hear thru the grapevine ...it's what THAT guy needed to do.
How would missionaries win a lottery, anyway ? They prob think it's gambling and that it's a sin.
Aw, thrill, that last post was spaced so nicely!!!! You care, you really care.
Why do you even care? What is it to an atheist? What's the difference between belief and disbelief? Aren't they two sides of the same coin?
Why I care is not the issue nor is it any of your business. Let's say for the sake of discussion that despite being an atheist I want to see the gospel spread to the entire world, and I'm angry at the Christian god for not helping out. There's your "Why?"
So the question was "Why do you think God refuses to help Christian missionaries win a big pot of money so they can spread the gospel of his son, Jesus?" Care to venture a guess? If you have no idea, just say so. Nobody will think the worst of you. Most readers already know why God doesn't help out the missionaries.
I know, right? Just as he told this ONE guy to sell everything and follow him..
Jesus wasn't talking to everyone...he knew this rich guy was super attached to his wealth...
so I hear thru the grapevine ...it's what THAT guy needed to do.
How would missionaries win a lottery, anyway ? They prob think it's gambling and that it's a sin.
Aw, thrill, that last post was spaced so nicely!!!! You care, you really care.
Miss Hepburn, do you think that guy was the only one attached to his wealth? What about the other billion wealthy people who profess Jesus but are attached to their wealth?
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It's the old:
...it's what THAT guy needed to do.
