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Old 05-20-2009, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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And sanspeur do you believe as some in science now suggest that our entire universe was once so small it would require a microscope to see it?
Now that sounds much harder to believe then anything found in the Scriptures.

Just think sanspeur, you could of put the whole universe in the change purse of your wallet. Now that really sounds magical. LOL
Why would that be harder to believe than the magic you believe in?

I have no idea how it all began, but creation says it came from nothing and you seem to believe that.
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Old 05-20-2009, 02:46 AM
 
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Why would that be harder to believe than the magic you believe in?

I have no idea how it all began, but creation says it came from nothing and you seem to believe that.
Well creation states everything came from God, science claims it all came from a very hot soup that began to expand. Yet science still has not told us where that hot soup came from.

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Old 05-20-2009, 04:54 AM
 
Location: PA
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Well creation states everything came from God, science claims it all came from a very hot soup that began to expand. Yet science still has not told us where that hot soup came from.
Science has no proof of a hot soup. These are just stories made up by the scientist. They are attempting to interpret the evidence that we see around us. Unfortunately, they were not there in the past, so there is no way for them to know for certain.

The fact is that the evidence points to a recent creation. The Universe is winding down from a wound-up state in the past. It was not billions of years ago, or else there would be no radio-active material for they would have all been depleted. The stars are actually young. The evolution of the Universe is just man throwing his hypothesis of the beginning onto the stars.
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Science has no proof of a hot soup. These are just stories made up by the scientist. They are attempting to interpret the evidence that we see around us. Unfortunately, they were not there in the past, so there is no way for them to know for certain.

The fact is that the evidence points to a recent creation. The Universe is winding down from a wound-up state in the past. It was not billions of years ago, or else there would be no radio-active material for they would have all been depleted. The stars are actually young. The evolution of the Universe is just man throwing his hypothesis of the beginning onto the stars.
How about showing all this evidence for a young universe instead of just making statements that you can't back up...You YEC folks spend all your time trying to refute science instead of making a real case for your creation myth.
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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How about showing all this evidence for a young universe instead of just making statements that you can't back up...You YEC folks spend all your time trying to refute science instead of making a real case for your creation myth.
Thank you for giving me some examples of how to work at being ignorante. If any one does provide evidance than they would be automaticaly excluded from your view of evidance, it's out there you just have to leave your comfy box!
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Thank you for giving me some examples of how to work at being ignorante. If any one does provide evidance than they would be automaticaly excluded from your view of evidance, it's out there you just have to leave your comfy box!
I suggest you learn how to spell and construct a proper sentence before you call others ignorant.....If you have evidence, let's see it. Show me how Noah managed to crowd all those creatures on the ark with enough food to survive the flood for more than half a year without them devouring each other, or sinking the ship with excrement.

I'm guessing that you will just make things up as we go along, but that is what comes from being stuck in a make believe world....Most of us outgrow this "let's pretend" mindset, and accept that the flood story is not possible.
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:17 AM
 
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I suggest you learn how to spell and construct a proper sentence before you call others ignorant.....If you have evidence, let's see it. Show me how Noah managed to crowd all those creatures on the ark with enough food to survive the flood for more than half a year without them devouring each other, or sinking the ship with excrement.

I'm guessing that you will just make things up as we go along, but that is what comes from being stuck in a make believe world....Most of us outgrow this "let's pretend" mindset, and accept that the flood story is not possible.

You forgot explaining how all the drowned vegetation survived. Someone once said Noah had seeds. Great then how was he able to plant them all globally in grow them in time for the plant eaters to have enough to eat before they starved waiting for the plants to grow?
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You forgot explaining how all the drowned vegetation survived. Someone once said Noah had seeds. Great then how was he able to plant them all globally in grow them in time for the plant eaters to have enough to eat before they starved waiting for the plants to grow?
There is only one explanation for that, and pretty much everything else regarding the flood myth.....Magic! ( God did it )
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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Show me how Noah managed to crowd all those creatures on the ark with enough food to survive the flood for more than half a year without them devouring each other, or sinking the ship with excrement.
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You forgot explaining how all the drowned vegetation survived. Someone once said Noah had seeds. Great then how was he able to plant them all globally in grow them in time for the plant eaters to have enough to eat before they starved waiting for the plants to grow?
You two are looking at this all wrong. There is no reason to ask all these questions. The entire flood story is incredibly easy to fathom when you add an unfathomable supernatural element to it.
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:32 AM
 
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You two are looking at this all wrong. There is no reason to ask all these questions. The entire flood story is incredibly easy to fathom when you add an unfathomable supernatural element to it.
lmao your right. I need to look it form the point of view of either:

- Wide-eyed 6 yr old that doesn't know how the world works and magic is very real

or

- brainwashed zealot
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