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Old 06-06-2009, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Most states already have laws making homosexuality sex acts illegal.
Not true, prior to 2003 Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah and Virginia had some sort of anti-homosexual sodomy laws.

The remaining states had already had the laws repealed, or overturned by court rulings.

In 2003 the US Supreme Court invalidated anti-sodomy laws in the above listed states in Lawrence v. Texas.

So, as you can see there are no anti-homosexual sodomy laws remaining in the United States outside of the military.
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:19 PM
 
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are we still on topic?

thank you all for valuable information on the legalistic side of theory and practice in east and west. more or less.

imo, concentrating on a widespread problem by reducing it to a question as worded by the op here, is dodging a social (control) issue increasing to global proportions!

this is not about anyone's privacy being protected from religious righteousness, but about male dominance and female compliance effecting changes in social behavior that never got much attention in the first place.
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Colossus wrote:

Here's a link that discusses how various Islamic nations deal with homosexuality:

Here's a brief section that talks specifically about Islam:


You'll notice that Iran has executed about 4,000 people for homosexual activity and almost all Islamic nations punish people to some extent for this sexual behavior.
Again, we are taking just the homosexual penalties out of the huge chunk of Sharia penal law.

Knowing Islam like a native does, the law forbids promiscuity - that goes for prostitution, pederasts, homosexuals and other lewd conduct prohibited by Islam.

The taliban, for instance, execute women and children who go to school.

When punitive law is enforced on all and sundry, the act of magnifying one subset is fraught with disproportionate analysis and cannot account for persecution of homosexuals.
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Old 06-07-2009, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Southern NC
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Most states already have laws making homosexuality sex acts illegal.
Alot of states also still have laws against oral sex...does this mean everyone follows those laws....I think not.

There are also still laws on the books for every state...stupid laws like, you can't tie your elephant to the hitchin' post after 9pm...etc.

My point is that there are alot of outdated laws on our books from a long time ago that no longer pertain to our society.
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Old 06-07-2009, 06:10 AM
 
Location: England
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Sin is sin. We live in an age of Grace - at least in non-islamic countries. We are free to choose. But Gods ways are still the best and the right ways. He loves people and wants them to KNOW him on a personal level - but our sin gets in the way. In the Old Testament the Law stood - people who commited adultery/murder/sodomy were stoned to death. This was because God wanted to eradicate sin from his people - so he could have a relationship with them and protect them from the ongoing effect of sin which is like a disease . Jesus came to this earth - God incarnate - taking on himself, the sins of those who believe on him and follow him - he became sin for us. Therefore the LAW was satisfied and Gods Justice which could not tolerate Sin. Gods Grace became available to all people. Its still our choice though. We are free to continue sinning - or we can turn away from our sin ask God to forgive us through Christ Jesus. He makes us new creatures - spiritually reborn, able to have a relationship with our creator because the SIN bit has been taken care of. So should we continue to sin - in homosexuality, adultery, theft etc.....??? NO! But we have the freedom to choose.

The OP asks if homosexuality should be punished by death. It is a path that leads to death - spiritual death. All sin leads to death. The Law of the land does not punish everything that is against Gods Law - there is so much anyway!!!!

I think that people should continue to have the freedom to choose - but Christians should have the freedom to warn those who are lost and on a road that leads to hell - that that is their destination, unless they turn to the Lord with all their hearts. God can turn lives around. He can wash away any sin. He can make us new. He is the Lawgiver - he's the Grace provider.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:17 AM
 
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"Would You As A Christian Make Homosexual Sex Illegal If You Could?"

Nope! It's none of my business what goes on in my neighbors bedroom.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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Wouldn't it create a "Black Market"?
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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Nope. Honestly...there are plenty of immoral things that a person can do that should not necessarily be criminalized.
I'm glad to hear that. You were actually one of the people that I thought might support making it illegal so I'm relieved to hear that you have a more reasonable opinion.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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... currently advocated, firebrand smoldering on????

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Old 06-08-2009, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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I do not feel that it would be right for me or anyone else to legislate somebody else's private life whatever it might be. When we start doing that, what's going to be next? Will we go back to saying that African Americans and Caucasians can't marry each other or Caucasians and Native Americans can't marry each other or how about Catholics and Protestants or Baptists and Methodists what are we going to legislate next Christians and non-Christians aren't allowed to marry, this country was founded on certain liberties not on Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Paganism or any other kind of religion, this country was founded on freedom of religion, which means we are free to worship whatever religion or belief or non-religion or non-belief we so please. No, even if I had the power to do so, I would not.
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