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Why should I care is someone is, wants to be, fears that they are, or hopes that they are homosexual? The only thing I care about is not being flirted with by people of the same sex as I am.
I think the only reason some people are anti-homosexual is because they were told to beleive the nonsense from the bible about being homosexual and going to hell. --If that is true, why should I care if they go to hell? If my own kid was homosexual, and was happy, why would I care? I want my kid to be happy.
So.......why SHOULD I care? What good would caring about such a thing do?
At one time many decades ago homosexuality was widely considered to be a mental illness. Today mental health professionals, psychiatrists and the overwhelming majority of people involved with human sexuality on a professional level have come to the conclusion a long time ago that it is not an illness at all and it's just part of the normal variation in human sexual desires. There are those who believe there may be a genetic link although that remains unproven. So basically it's already been studied for quite a long time and it seems obvious that the hostility directed against gay people is completely unjustified.
I have had many religious people tell me that it wouldn't matter to them if science proved homosexuality was genetic...they would still feel the same way...that's it's wrong in the eyes of the "Lord."
I realize we've had a ton of threads regarding homosexuality but I'd like to ask a question that I don't think I've read on any of those threads. Many years ago a homosexual act was illegal in many states and gradually those laws were either not enforced or were overturned by the Courts. I can recall an interview with a man in California who was associated with an extremely anti-gay group who supported the concept of not only making it illegal to engage in same sex activity but to also make it a crime that could result in the death penalty. Of course even the most right wing fundamentalists would probably not go that far but I'm wondering what those of you who are opposed to homosexuality would actually do in terms of legislation if you had the power to do so. In many Islamic nations people who are caught engaging in same sex activities can be sent to prison. So my question is this, just how far would your anti-gay point of view go if you were able to force your will on society? Would you make homosexual sex illegal, send people to prison, or would you simply be satisfied that gays and lesbians can't get married in most states?
Nope. Honestly...there are plenty of immoral things that a person can do that should not necessarily be criminalized.
I have had many religious people tell me that it wouldn't matter to them if science proved homosexuality was genetic...they would still feel the same way...that's it's wrong in the eyes of the "Lord."
Science already has proven that homosexuality is natural. Read the latest issue of Scientific American Mind. The consensus is that homosexuality is quite prevalent in animal populations and a normal part of their behavior.
Likewise, Kinsey even created a gradient because he learned that most humans lie somewhere on a gradient between the extremes.
This science needs to be voiced more in this effort to oppress homosexuals.
Science already has proven that homosexuality is natural. Read the latest issue of Scientific American Mind. The consensus is that homosexuality is quite prevalent in animal populations and a normal part of their behavior.
Likewise, Kinsey even created a gradient because he learned that most humans lie somewhere on a gradient between the extremes.
This science needs to be voiced more in this effort to oppress homosexuals.
I've seen this argument before but as of yet I've seen no one explain how if it occurs in nature that it is good or healthy.
In nature animals eat their young. Disputes are settled by being the toughest in the pack. A single male might have several mates. Incest occurs.
The overall effect is to detonate the myth that animals are solely driven by heterosexual reproductive urges, as Bagemihl, a biologist, amasses evidence with case study after case study of species ranging from whiptail lizards to bottlenose dolphins, flamingoes, vampire bats and giraffes. But his book offers more than a zoological laundry list. Biologists who have long classified these behaviors as taking place only in "abnormal" conditions or as "pseudo-copulation," "mistakes," "practicing" and domineering sexual bullying are frequently shown to be willfully ignoring behavior that does not reflect their own worldview or accepted scientific thought.
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Bruce Bagemihl writes that Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity was a "labor of love." And indeed it must have been, since most scientists have thus far studiously avoided the topic of widespread homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom--sometimes in the face of undeniable evidence. Bagemihl begins with an overview of same-sex activity in animals, carefully defining courtship patterns, affectionate behaviors, sexual techniques, mating and pair-bonding, and same-sex parenting. He firmly dispels the prevailing notion that homosexuality is uniquely human and only occurs in "unnatural" circumstances.
I've seen this argument before but as of yet I've seen no one explain how if it occurs in nature that it is good or healthy.
In nature animals eat their young. Disputes are settled by being the toughest in the pack. A single male might have several mates. Incest occurs.
How is it a good thing if it "occurs in nature"?
Because the core of your argument is that homosexuality is "unnatural".
Thus, the core of your argument has been proven to be wrong.
To the larger point, scientists have determined that humans exist on a gradient between homosexual and heterosexual attraction, most somewhere toward the middle. You argue that homosexuals are depraved and lost.
So, once again, science proves that the core of that argument is wrong.
Seriously? Come one. They don't bother you in your bedroom-- why bother them while they are in theirs?
Last thing I want is some preacher peeping in my window seeing what my hubby and I are doing. Sure my best friend feels the same way-- he and his boyfriend deserve just as much privacy.
It's misleading to annotate that Jesus replaced the commandments with His.
He clearly stated that these two are the "greatest" commandments.
Greatest can only mean precedence and in no way nullifies the other commandments
Signed:
Pharisee boy
Maybe you are reading it differently......but:
JOHN 13:34 NKJ
34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you love one another.
You can fulfill all the other commandments if you think you can....even though Jesus did that for you.
I find it challenging enough to walk in love..................and strangely enough, it is more appealing to unbelievers than suggesting they will go to hell for eating pork...or loving someone the church (as a religion) doesn't approve of.
I think we should ponder this verse a little longer before assuming the judgment of mankind should somehow be a part of our agenda.
I think we should really study it before shutting people out.
I think we should really know the meaning of it before assuming we speak for God.
More importantly....I think we should live this verse before we find ourselves OUTSIDE of the Pearly Gates.
More than anything..... we should hang our heads in complete shame....that a world Jesus died to save....we've decided to add additional rules to....as though WE are God.
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Last thing I want is some preacher peeping in my window seeing what my hubby and I are doing. Sure my best friend feels the same way-- he and his boyfriend deserve just as much privacy. 
