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Old 12-05-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: NSW
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One of the buddhist goals is to actually become a god in heaven



Millions of people have seen Hell. I have to. It's real.

I've been to Heaven as well.

It's all true.


The antichrist attacks me because I tell folk I have been to Hell. Because if Hell exists then so does Christ. They hate that. LOL
Wouldn't it be more likely Billions - when you include those that are already there, with no way out?
There is no "RIP" for these individuals it seems, as what may appear on their gravestone.
Fundies believe the vast majority of humanity will end up there, something to do with "the narrow gate" as well.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:24 PM
 
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Wouldn't it be more likely Billions - when you include those that are already there, with no way out?
There is no "RIP" for these individuals it seems, as what may appear on their gravestone.
Fundies believe the vast majority of humanity will end up there, something to do with "the narrow gate" as well.
Well I noticed that God speaks in extremes to make the biggest impact. Like if a rock is going to hit you on the head He will give you a vision of the entire cliff falling on you, just to warn you in an exaggerated manner of what is about to occur; & hopefully make you wary of that area. So when He told someone that they will burn in Hell forever He was probably just trying to make the biggest impact & scare people into being good.

If He said you will burn for a certain length of time & then be released you might think you can handle it & be evil anyway. So by telling people that Hell is forever it makes the warning absolute & it makes the biggest impact.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Therevada buddhists still pray to a god. Just not the Big God Christians & others believe in.

You see Genesis explains on the first page that God created the heavens under water. There are 7 levels to heaven & these are all places that people & God can go to.

Buddha figured all the gods in the heavens & even the heavens themselves are temporary & therefore false. He wanted to rise above all of the heavens & any gods who dwell there. That means he wanted to go to where God was before God created the heavens. He will still find someone (His Maker) there however. LOL
Let me make the difference clear, because it's probably too simple for you to understand.

Theravadist Buddhists are free to believe in god or a god. It isn't like most religions where you must believe in god. We're allowed to think for ourselves. Personally, I've yet to meet a Theravadan who believes in god.

I don't give a flying fart what Genesis says. The Old Testament is a hateful book of mere fiction.

Your third paragraph is just plain stoopid. Instead of relying on know-all/know-nothing sites such as Quora, go to some of the true Buddhist sites and learn something outside of your daily hogwash.
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:04 PM
 
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Buddha said that gods & demons, Heaven & Hell, are as real as you & me. So he did believe in God. It just was a different idea of God. To Buddha all gods took birth & died, even if they lived for millions of years in Heaven first. Buddhists believe that most Buddhas, of which there are many, have their own individual heavenly worlds where they are The Lords; & you can go & live on those worlds if you are their followers.

So basically their religion is the same as Christianity except they have a different idea of what God & Heaven looks like etc.

They also believe in escaping rebirth. I've been granted that by God years ago. He showed me that we all have our original bodies which are young gods & goddesses, & they are placed into a deep sleep, & our souls are removed & sent into this creation which has seven levels of Heavens. And we all take birth over & over here, & can attain a life in the heavens if we are good 'Or a life in the hells if we are evil.

But we can be removed completely from this process of rebirth & returned to our original bodies which are completely outside of the multi-levelled creation.

We still have bodies when we escape samsara (rebirth). In fact they are infinitely superior bodies! When God places me back into my original body I find I am a billion times more alive than I am on earth. It is awesome.

Also some Buddhists believe in a void. God took me through all the levels of Heaven many times & He showed me a void where souls can be kept. He send me into it & I became nothingness. I just merged with the void. I was like consciousness with no body. Then God reached in & pulled me out & I became my whole self again.

So God even has the buddhist's void, & the entire cycle of rebirth, under His absolute control. And has your original god & goddess bodies held in a deep sleep 'on the outside of the Samsara (rebirth) process, waiting for you to return to them
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Buddha said that gods & demons, Heaven & Hell, are as real as you & me. So he did believe in God. It just was a different idea of God. To Buddha all gods took birth & died, even if they lived for millions of years in Heaven first. Buddhists believe that most Buddhas, of which there are many, have their own individual heavenly worlds where they are The Lords; & you can go & live on those worlds if you are their followers.

So basically their religion is the same as Christianity except they have a different idea of what God & Heaven looks like etc.

They also believe in escaping rebirth. I've been granted that by God years ago. He showed me that we all have our original bodies which are young gods & goddesses, & they are placed into a deep sleep, & our souls are removed & sent into this creation which has seven levels of Heavens. And we all take birth over & over here, & can attain a life in the heavens if we are good 'Or a life in the hells if we are evil.

But we can be removed completely from this process of rebirth & returned to our original bodies which are completely outside of the multi-levelled creation.

We still have bodies when we escape samsara (rebirth). In fact they are infinitely superior bodies! When God places me back into my original body I find I am a billion times more alive than I am on earth. It is awesome.

Also some Buddhists believe in a void. God took me through all the levels of Heaven many times & He showed me a void where souls can be kept. He send me into it & I became nothingness. I just merged with the void. I was like consciousness with no body. Then God reached in & pulled me out & I became my whole self again.

So God even has the buddhist's void, & the entire cycle of rebirth, under His absolute control. And has your original god & goddess bodies held in a deep sleep 'on the outside of the Samsara (rebirth) process, waiting for you to return to them
Whenever someone brings something up, you then try to say you've been there. You're quite the fictionalist.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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You're quite the fictionalist.
You're just out of your depth
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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How can I become a more spiritual person?

Learn to notice, and appreciate, the small things.
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You're just out of your depth
Thank you Mr. Serling.

To the OP...this poster displays all that is wrong about many religions. He constantly stokes the fear of hell and perhaps very occasionally mentions what is most important about religions -- goodness. It's a good example of why you need to cherry pick philosophies and religions and trust in reliable sources of information.

If you would like to explore a bit about Theravada Buddhism as you examine various religions and philosophies, a good place to start is: https://www.accesstoinsight.org/theravada.html
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:07 PM
 
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Calling people names & personally attacking them every day, the moment they post some inspiring spiritual information, is not a demonstration of a person who was able to cherrypick the best from religions & use them to improve himself. LOL.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:19 PM
 
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no religion -- and especially not the hellish religion touted by ocean777 -- has all the answers.
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To the OP...this poster displays all that is wrong about many religions. He constantly stokes the fear of hell ....

If you would like to explore a bit about Theravada Buddhism as you examine various religions and philosophies, a good place to start is: https://www.accesstoinsight.org/theravada.html

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Quote from The Buddhist link.: 'act in unskillful and harmful ways and unhappiness is bound to follow; act skillfully and happiness will ultimately ensue . As long as one remains ignorant of this principle, one is doomed to an aimless existence: happy one moment, in despair the next; enjoying one lifetime in heaven, the next in hell.
- What is Theravada Buddhism? https://www.accesstoinsight.org/theravada.html
So Theravada Buddhism uses the threat of Hell & unhappiness, suffering, misery etc to frighten folk into following them. Just like your so-called "Hellish Religion" Christianity.

So your brand of Buddhism is no different in the sense that it uses threats to get people to obey it. And lo & behold, It uses eternal rebirth into potential suffering lives as a threat to make people obey. That is the same as saying people will burn in hell for eternity if they are sinful.

So you attack me because I believe in Hell, & then you push your religion which preaches "eternal suffering" if you do not obey.

Not Very intelligent my dear boy

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