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Old 07-19-2009, 12:42 PM
 
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So what do you do when the Artifacts were placed there before the written Biblical account? Like the coral encrusted remains of Pharaohs army discovered by divers found between the pillars.
And your proof as to what these really are? Did they find ID's or a roster of the troops?

Your claim is mere supposition at best, a bald faced lie in reality.
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Old 07-19-2009, 12:54 PM
 
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Well.. Jerusalem was mentioned in the Bible, and Jerusalem exists. There are plenty of archeological confirmation of Jerusalem existence. Does it prove anything? Yes, it proves that Bible was written when Jerusalem existed. Does it prove Jesus existence? Nope. Does it prove miracles? Nope.
We are looking for archeological proves of divine in the Bible.
Noah arch would be such prove. There is no proves of this boat. There is scientific estimates (basic math) of size of that boat that should have enough space for all animals and food for them. Size of that boat would be enormous (size of the biggest zoo), much bigger then described (?) in the Bible, and ever existed on the Earth.
Weak theories that says that Red Sea may be was shallow and wind remove water from some part of it, so people may cross, is not a prove of divine sea-split.
The same way as Sodom and Gomorrah "discovery". Sodom and Gomorrah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We have other cities that was buried by volcano eruption: Pompey Pompeii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Do we have any proves that that eruptions happens because of divine intervention? No. On a contrary, it was normal geological situation. Where is the divine intervention?
Do we have archeological proves that Sodom and Gomorrah was "amoral" city? Nope..
Come on guys. Open your eyes, seriously. THERE IS NO ANY proves of anything divine in the Bible (or not in the Bible).
Nick, there is a lot of information out there. If you listen to most here, they will fill you up with their unproven theories. And they will base their lives on them being correct. Yet there is more obvious evidence that is back up by numerous eyewitinesses accounts. And these people will tell you that Noahs Ark is still on Mt. Ararat. The question you have to ask yourself. Are all the people over all the past years who have stated they have seen Noah's Ark. Are they all liars? And are those unproven theories about evolution. Are they really true? Consider the links below.

Noah's Ark Information (http://www.fellowshipinhislove.com/NoahsArkinfo.html - broken link)
Satellite Sleuth Closes in on Noah's Ark Mystery | LiveScience



And I might add here, that the real Red Sea site has been discovered, along with the coral incrusted remains of Pharoah's army.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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So what do you do when the Artifacts were placed there before the written Biblical account? Like the coral encrusted remains of Pharaohs army discovered by divers found between the pillars.
Just the mere fact that Pinkoski was a collaberator of Wyatt's should tell the rational, intelligent, thinking person than Pinkoski is as full of fecal matter as Wyatt was.

I LOVE the photo of Wyatt on Pinkoski's website as it is a perfect indication of the true nature of fraud these men represent. Mind explaining why every other carving from 2000 years ago is worn and faded, but the inscriptions on these pillars look fresh and new?

The underwater photos of "chariot parts" is also laughable as well. So, why haven't they been excavated?

I also found it quite humerous that Wyatt "found" these pillars, standing on a sea shore in an inhabitated part of the ME that no one apperently never noticed before.

Both Wyatt and Pinkoski are frauds, charletons, and you've bought their snake oil hook, line, and sinker. I can only hope you've not proided either of these criminals with any funds by buying any of their books or videos.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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Nick, there is a lot of information out there. If you listen to most here, they will fill you up with their unproven theories. And they will base their lives on them being correct. Yet there is more obvious evidence that is back up by numerous eyewitinesses accounts. And these people will tell you that Noahs Ark is still on Mt. Ararat. The question you have to ask yourself. Are all the people over all the past years who have stated they have seen Noah's Ark. Are they all liars? And are those unproven theories about evolution. Are they really true? Consider the links below.

Noah's Ark Information (http://www.fellowshipinhislove.com/NoahsArkinfo.html - broken link)
Satellite Sleuth Closes in on Noah's Ark Mystery | LiveScience



And I might add here, that the real Red Sea site has been discovered, along with the coral incrusted remains of Pharoah's army.
Yet there have been no annoucements, no documentaries, no museums or archeolgical digs, not even photos of the alleged Ark.

Yes, just as Wyatt was a liar, so are these people.

And yes, Evolution is true.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:20 PM
 
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And your proof as to what these really are? Did they find ID's or a roster of the troops?

Your claim is mere supposition at best, a bald faced lie in reality.

The Director of Egyptian Antiquities Dr. Nassif Mohammed Hassan looked at one of the coral incrusted 8 spoke chariot wheels found at the site and confirmed it was from the eighteenth dynasty. And placed it around 1446 B.C., and this would be the Biblical time of the Exodus. Chariot boxes, 4-6 and 8 spoke chariot wheels, along with horse and human skeletal remains are found spread all along the ocean floor, and between the two red granit pillars. These finds have been confirmed by both Wyatt, and Dr. Moller's team who investigated the same site as well.

Unless Dr. Moller, and his team are all liars, this site is a reality.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:30 PM
 
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The Director of Egyptian Antiquities Dr. Nassif Mohammed Hassan looked at one of the coral incrusted 8 spoke chariot wheels found at the site and confirmed it was from the eighteenth dynasty. And placed it around 1446 B.C., and this would be the Biblical time of the Exodus. Chariot boxes, 4-6 and 8 spoke chariot wheels, along with horse and human skeletal remains are found spread all along the ocean floor, and between the two red granit pillars. These finds have been confirmed by both Wyatt, and Dr. Moller's team who investigated the same site as well.

Unless Dr. Moller, and his team are all liars, this site is a reality.
You've provided your own disclaimer.

These parts are found ALL OVER the Red Sea's floor, and both Gulfs as well. Just the fact that wheels from several eras and periods should be indicative of the fraud perpetuated by Wyatt and Moller, a molecular biologist and also a well know charleton as well.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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Well, anyone can make vague accusations, could you be a little more detailed on your attack? I find people who like to speak in such vague terms do so, only because they cannot present a strong arguement when details are required.
*Sigh* Yet more baseless assertions thrown out in order to avoid the issue*

Let's start with the age of the earth.

Archeology-45,000,000,000 years old.

Pseudo-scientific creationism-10,000-6,000 years old.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:41 PM
 
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Yet there have been no annoucements, no documentaries, no museums or archeolgical digs, not even photos of the alleged Ark.

Yes, just as Wyatt was a liar, so are these people.

And yes, Evolution is true.
Well, there are numerous people from all walks of life covering many years who all give the same story. To assume they are all liars would require one to have little faith in his fellow man. Also, we have high altitude photographs that paint the same picture as the accounts given by many of these people. Ed Davis in the 1940s said the Ark was broken in two. Now photographs taken years latter from high altitudes show what appears to be a manmade object, that is broken in two. And at some point, you have to start putting 2+2 together. We are talking about both American pilots, and Russian pilots all saying the same thing, they saw something like a big barge near the top of Mt. Arrart. And they claim that what they saw was the size of a big battleship. Yet you only see it in the hottest of summers. And all the past reports that have come in, do so only during those very hot summers.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:44 PM
 
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And let us not forget the sand and silt that is carried into the Red Sea either. Anything that has beent here for over two thousand years would be under sevearl feet of silt, sand, and coral. Also, the "gilded wheel" is bumpkiss as well. Coral is an animal, not a plant, and will grow over anything, including gold.

Also, the wheel itself was never present to Dr. Hassan, only an underwater photograph, which is readily available on the internet. Dr. Hassan commented that it "resembled" a chariot wheel from the time attributed to the Exodus.

Considering Wyatt's "archeological" habits, such as dropping a hammer in a crevice on his "Ark site" and later claiming the ping from a metal detetcor was aprt of the Ark, one should automatically assume that this wheel is a forgery as well, a wheel that was never recovered.

Indeed, I am unable to locate ANY information stating that Wyatt, or Moller, have removed ANY chariots parts from the Gulf bottom. All we ahve to go by is photgraphs of vague coral shapes in murky waters.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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You've provided your own disclaimer.

These parts are found ALL OVER the Red Sea's floor, and both Gulfs as well. Just the fact that wheels from several eras and periods should be indicative of the fraud perpetuated by Wyatt and Moller, a molecular biologist and also a well know charleton as well.
Can you show me your evidence of chariot wheels being found ALL OVER the Red Sea? Where did you learn of this? Can you provide a link?
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