Evangelical Church Opens Doors Fully To Gays (Islam, Holy Spirit, quotes)
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The Bible is painfylly clear about it. Homosexuality and Christianity are incompatibe. The gays can go to that church, but the spirit of Christ will stay away from there. I don't know why they even bother calling it a church.
1. What did Christ himself have to say on the subject?
2. When did Christ direct his followers to worship literal interpretations of a book that would not be fully written, compiled, and voted upon by a panel of flawed humans for another 3 centuries?
Perhaps the true path of Christ cannot be found in any book.
I think Christianity and all sin are compatible. Is that not the fuction of a church, to accept sinners and help them to live more like Christ?...
Even Christians that are "born again" strive to live their lives in the word...Accepting Christ into your life, is not an automatic guaranty that you will never sin again.
Church is for sinners...If you can live your daily life without sin, then you're JCII.
I agree that the church is open for sinners, and that believers also sin, but the goal of allowing gays into this church is to condone homosexuality, not to fight it.
So, yes you are right: the function of a church is to accept sinners and help them to live more like Christ, but that is not the case with this church. As long at they condone homosexuality, they are incompatible with Christianity, and it makes it a fake church and their preachings are a blasphemy of the word of God.
Gays are welcome to any church if they are willing to accept the Lord and to leave homosexuality behind.
1. What did Christ himself have to say on the subject?
2. When did Christ direct his followers to worship literal interpretations of a book that would not be fully written, compiled, and voted upon by a panel of flawed humans for another 3 centuries?
Perhaps the true path of Christ cannot be found in any book.
No, the path can be found in the Bible, and it states very clearly that homosexuality is a sin. Either you beleive it, or you don't.
Homosexuality is decribed as "gross immorality".
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Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
The Bible is painfylly clear about it. Homosexuality and Christianity are incompatibe. The gays can go to that church, but the spirit of Christ will stay away from there. I don't know why they even bother calling it a church.
Jesus did not preach on homosexuality did he? The bible also says men cannot marry widows or divorced women, some translations of the same verse also say the man must marry must be virgins, so let's stone Gingrich's and Limbaugh's wives, kick out everyone who has a tatoo, who has charged interest on a loan, who has eaten pork or shrimp, worn cloths made of blends, As for the famous phrase in the Bible about homosexuality, it is a total mistranslation and taken out of context, but as one poster said this is not a the religion forum. (Even Orthodox rabbis in Israel are now moving in the direction of saying that gay sexual relations are OK as long as they don't involve intercourse.) I know most people can't read Hebrew, but considering the importance of the Bible, its worth the effort, otherwise, you are letting other people decide a lot of things for you.
Makes sense. When one moves beyond the division and hate that afflicts many churches, they find a Christ who protected a prostitute from being stoned.
Their motives may be suspect, but it's a step toward unity, which is precisely what Christ teaches them to do.
Finish the story. Yes Jesus protected the woman caught in adultery (there is no evidence she was a prostitute) from stoning. But then he admonished her to "Go and sin no more." So Jesus did not ognore the fact that adultery is sin. If you want to apply that story to homosexuals they would be welcomed in church but admonished that continuing in that lifestyle is sin. I suspect that gays would not find such a church "welcoming."
I agree that the church is open for sinners, and that believers also sin, but the goal of allowing gays into this church is to condone homosexuality, not to fight it.
So, yes you are right: the function of a church is to accept sinners and help them to live more like Christ, but that is not the case with this church. As long at they condone homosexuality, they are incompatible with Christianity, and it makes it a fake church and their preachings are a blasphemy of the word of God.
Gays are welcome to any church if they are willing to accept the Lord and to leave homosexuality behind.
LOL. Speaks volumes. You just don't get it. You're PERFECT for the church.
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Originally Posted by newhandle
Jesus did not preach on homosexuality did he? The bible also says men cannot marry widows or divorced women, some translations of the same verse also say the man must marry must be virgins, so let's stone Gingrich's and Limbaugh's wives, kick out everyone who has a tatoo, who has charged interest on a loan, who has eaten pork or shrimp, worn cloths made of blends, As for the famous phrase in the Bible about homosexuality, it is a total mistranslation and taken out of context, but as one poster said this is not a the religion forum. (Even Orthodox rabbis in Israel are now moving in the direction of saying that gay sexual relations are OK as long as they don't involve intercourse.) I know most people can't read Hebrew, but considering the importance of the Bible, its worth the effort, otherwise, you are letting other people decide a lot of things for you.
Oh, I'm sure they do know that. Just gotta cover up the hate somehow. The bible is perfect for that. "The bible says that...... ".
Jesus did not preach on homosexuality did he? The bible also says men cannot marry widows or divorced women, some translations of the same verse also say the man must marry must be virgins, so let's stone Gingrich's and Limbaugh's wives, kick out everyone who has a tatoo, who has charged interest on a loan, who has eaten pork or shrimp, worn cloths made of blends, As for the famous phrase in the Bible about homosexuality, it is a total mistranslation and taken out of context, but as one poster said this is not a the religion forum. (Even Orthodox rabbis in Israel are now moving in the direction of saying that gay sexual relations are OK as long as they don't involve intercourse.) I know most people can't read Hebrew, but considering the importance of the Bible, its worth the effort, otherwise, you are letting other people decide a lot of things for you.
If it was only one reference to homosexuality in the bible, it could be taken out of context, but there are MANY references to it, and there is no room for mistranslation.
Homosexuals can be saved just like any other sinner, but such lifestyle is incompatible with being a Christian. When saved, the lifestyle will have to be abandoned. In other words you can't be both. It is one or the other.
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