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Such people are Christians in name only, or worse - false Christians. Christ is the only way to salvation, and the Bible is his word, so if you don't believe in the Bible, there is no hope for you.
Are you, or are you not a Christian who does not believe in the Bible? If you are an atheist, I understand why you say what you say.
Deary, you make the mistake of thinking and believing I have to justify my spirituality to you. I'm so sorry to inform you that I do not.
Such people are Christians in name only, or worse - false Christians. Christ is the only way to salvation, and the Bible is his word, so if you don't believe in the Bible, there is no hope for you.
Are you, or are you not a Christian who does not believe in the Bible? If you are an atheist, I understand why you say what you say.
Not another self-proclaimed judge of Christianity who feels authorized to decide who is or is not Christian based on HIS beliefs about the relevant criteria!! Sheesh!! They seem to be coming out of the woodwork here! God knows who is and is not Christian and needs no help from you,Finn_Jarber. Since there is ONLY ONE God and ONLY ONE Jesus . . . anyone claiming to believe in them must be Christian . . . what else could they be?
It's like the trojan horse in reverse. If I were a gay entering that Church, I would feel like I needed to watch my back. I wonder how many members (pardon the pun) would like to date some of the gays in secret ? Plenty, I bet. The sanctimonious hypocrites can't be fully trusted. Long Live Saint Francis, and San Francisco.
Not another self-proclaimed judge of Christianity who feels authorized to decide who is or is not Christian based on HIS beliefs about the relevant criteria!! Sheesh!! They seem to be coming out of the woodwork here! God knows who is and is not Christian and needs no help from you,Finn_Jarber. Since there is ONLY ONE God and ONLY ONE Jesus . . . anyone claiming to believe in them must be Christian . . . what else could they be?
So you are also saying you can reject the Bible and still be Christian? Is that what you are trying to say?
According to the Bible you are wrong, but of course if you say you don't believe in the Bible in the first place, then there is nothing to talk about. You don't believe in the Bible, then you can't possibly be a Christian, because it is the story of Christ and Christianity. How could you possibly make an argument that it came from somewhere else? Christians believe in the Bible. Period. What do you believe in? Just curious, what message could he be teaching? Which book does he refer to?
PS How do you know there is only one God if you don't believe in the Bible? The Bible says so, but since you reject it, then why do you think there is only one God? Who told you? Also, what does this gay pastor teach in his 'Christian' Church, if not the word of God, the Bible? Which book does he refer to, if not the Bible? Just curious....
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Such people are Christians in name only, or worse - false Christians. Christ is the only way to salvation, and the Bible is his word, so if you don't believe in the Bible, there is no hope for you.
Are you, or are you not a Christian who does not believe in the Bible? If you are an atheist, I understand why you say what you say.
Who gave you the authority to judge who is a "true Christian" and who is not? Are you a God?
So you are also saying you can reject the Bible and still be Christian? Is that what you are trying to say?
No . . I am saying that I can reject YOUR reading and interpretation of the bible and still be Christian.
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According to the Bible you are wrong, but of course if you say you don't believe in the Bible in the first place, then there is nothing to talk about. You don't believe in the Bible, then you can't possibly be a Christian, because it is the story of Christ and Christianity. How could you possibly make an argument that it came from somewhere else? Christians believe in the Bible. Period.
Christians believe in Christ, period. Bibleans believe in the bible.
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What do you believe in? Just curious, what message could he be teaching? Which book does he refer to?
I believe in Jesus and His message of "love God and each other."He refers to the OT to establish His identity as the Messiah of prophesy and His legitimacy. But He also came to lift the veil of ignorance about God that comes from reading the OT and reveal God's TRUE NATURE.1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
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PS How do you know there is only one God if you don't believe in the Bible? The Bible says so, but since you reject it, then why do you think there is only one God? Who told you?
I explained that the rejection is of YOUR reading and interpretation of the bible . . . not the bible.
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Also, what does this gay pastor teach in his 'Christian' Church, if not the word of God, the Bible? Which book does he refer to, if not the Bible? Just curious....
Silly question.
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