Should everyone live by all the 10 commandments? (gospel, Jewish, Christianity)
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You can't just look at part of the OT. You also have to think about who it written to and the purpose of it. And as far as the people that rape, murder, pillage and all the other bad things you mentioned, guess you forgot about the devil, or you don't believe in the devil either I guess. Being created in God's image means we have self worth and should value ourselfs and not downgrade ourselfs. We have the ability to reflect God's character in our love, patience, forgiveness, kindness and faithfulness, but we also have a free will to choice to do the other things you mentioned.
Good post, ILNC. I was clueless where to even begin!
Yes to numbers 5-10. But that's a given...a 'good' person really doesn't need anyone to lay that out in a religious context...it's just common sense for any kind/thinking person.
Awesome! So, I can go out and murder innocent people because they are homosexuals or they have slept around? That is God's law isn't it? How about killing first born children? Can I do that too? What about sacrificing my own son? Can I do that too? How about never giving a straight answer to anything and just writing a book in some archaic language that no one understands and bickers about because I didn't know how to make it clear? I'll follow his laws the day he's proven to exist. Otherwise, I'll stay away from the murderous, vial acts that he performed. Hey, all I'm suggesting is that we were created in his image. People rape, murder, pillage, kidnap, steal, lie, cheat, blackmail, and look at child porn on a daily basis. Obviously if we were created in something's image that something must be equally as bad.
Yeah well murdering homosexuals is not in the ten command ments and it may have happend back during the old testament time but when JESUS came he broke things like that but the ten commandments is the most improtant thing we need to live a great life. Now as for all the sins you just named we do not have a free be to sin because if we live that way then it will clearly show that we do not love GOD for example if you kill, steal, or rape a girl and lets say the judge let you off does that mean he gave you a free be to do it again? NO so what you are trying to do is make excuses to turn from GOD. And yes we are created in GOD'S image and people who rape, kill, steal, or black mail is because they use there free will GOD gave us we have a choice we not just some mindless robots that dont know what we are doing if you steal you have to make that choice it's ether do it or don't do it and if you do it you can't blame GOD because he gave you a free will to do what you want.
Well, I've answered that before-that Christians are no longer compelled to abide by the law of the old covenant. The book of Hebrews addresses some of this about sabbaths and how the law was just a shadow of the reality which was later revealed in Christ. If someone thinks they need to abide still by the 10 commandments in a strict legalistic way, they have every right to believe as they desire, but I think biblically that is not supported. But if that is what they think it right, then so be it. We all have to decide for ourselves what is appopriate and should be done. Having said that, though, I again would say that some of these things are basic moral principles repeated in the new testament i.e.-committing murder, adultery etc. Now I would say "sabbath observance" no longer has to be, therefore, on a specific day of the week, Saturday or Sunday (or Wednesday) or whatever!! And even concerning the sabbath, my husband and I personally observe it in a non-legalistic way. For example, he has always made it clear to his employers that short of an emergency, he doesn't go in to work on Sundays. I don't typically do laundry or housework on the Sabbath though I would if something really needs to be done. This is what I mean by a "non-legalistic way." (Some, because of their occupation are unable to observe a sabbath on Sunday...or Saturday. My personal belief though, is that they would do well to set aside another day of the week (when they can be off) to observe a personal sabbath...again in an non-legalistic way. I think God constructed us physically and emotionally/mentally to function best with a weekly rest.) We try to keep it as a day or worship, rest, relaxation, a time to recharge. As I said in my earlier post, Jesus said God made the sabbath for man not man for the Sabbath.
Jesus said to keep the commandments. The Sabbath day is Saturday, not Sunday. The church changed the day to Sunday, just like worshipping idols, which is a commandment. There are not to be any image of anything in heaven...Which Church does that point to?
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Jesus said to keep the commandments. The Sabbath day is Saturday, not Sunday. The church changed the day to Sunday, just like worshipping idols, which is a commandment. There are not to be any image of anything in heaven...Which Church does that point to?
There is an interesting website called Worlds Last Chance, Bible Prophecy, Bible Reveals, Prediction in Bible, Bible Prophecies check it out.
Scary revelations.
One might ask how do we keep the Sabbath day holy? I am still working on that one myself, I am not Jewish, I was raised to keep Sunday just like most Christians. We have to find a way, it is extremely hard to do, but God commands it.
Yeah well murdering homosexuals is not in the ten command ments and it may have happend back during the old testament time but when JESUS came he broke things like that but the ten commandments is the most improtant thing we need to live a great life. Now as for all the sins you just named we do not have a free be to sin because if we live that way then it will clearly show that we do not love GOD for example if you kill, steal, or rape a girl and lets say the judge let you off does that mean he gave you a free be to do it again? NO so what you are trying to do is make excuses to turn from GOD. And yes we are created in GOD'S image and people who rape, kill, steal, or black mail is because they use there free will GOD gave us we have a choice we not just some mindless robots that dont know what we are doing if you steal you have to make that choice it's ether do it or don't do it and if you do it you can't blame GOD because he gave you a free will to do what you want.
What I still don't understand is how can you believe in the Ten Commandments written in the Old Testament but ignore the fact of the bad things that happened in the OT? How can you just pick and choose what parts of it you want to follow? I thought the bible was supposed to be believed in its entirety and to say that certain things in the OT are ok to still believe in but certain things aren't is hypocrisy.
I probably won't do justice at explaining this but since I'm up on CD in the middle of the night like a crazy person... here goes. The OT IS to be believed in its entirety. The old testament law, however, was given to the Jews. When Christ came, He fulfilled the law. As Christians, "the law" is now written on our hearts and we endeavor to follow as the Holy Spirit leads us to now fulfill the spirit of the law,not the letter of the law. Again, hopefully, someone else can better elaborate but in the middle of the night...I'm all ya get! If you really want to understand it, I would suggest reading the book of Galations and Hebrews.
I probably won't do justice at explaining this but since I'm up on CD in the middle of the night like a crazy person... here goes. The OT IS to be believed in its entirety. The old testament law, however, was given to the Jews. When Christ came, He fulfilled the law. As Christians, "the law" is now written on our hearts and we endeavor to follow as the Holy Spirit leads us to now fulfill the spirit of the law,not the letter of the law. Again, hopefully, someone else can better elaborate but in the middle of the night...I'm all ya get! If you really want to understand it, I would suggest reading the book of Galations and Hebrews.
But wouldn't the Ten Commandments be considered part of the old law given to the Jews??
What I still don't understand is how can you believe in the Ten Commandments written in the Old Testament but ignore the fact of the bad things that happened in the OT? How can you just pick and choose what parts of it you want to follow? I thought the bible was supposed to be believed in its entirety and to say that certain things in the OT are ok to still believe in but certain things aren't is hypocrisy.
You don't understand because you not a believer. Like I said before you have to look at WHEN it was written, WHO it was written to. The TRUTH of the OT and all the Bible transcends through time.We're not picking and choosing what to believe. You really should read more of the Bible, it would you understand. (But we all should be reading more, not just you)
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God certainly intended us to abide by the O.T. laws including the 10. However, no one could perfectly and this is one of the reasons Christ came.
"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." (Romans 10:4)
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Spirit Vs. the Letter
here goes. The OT IS to be believed in its entirety. The old testament law, however, was given to the Jews. When Christ came, He fulfilled the law. As Christians, "the law" is now written on our hearts and we endeavor to follow as the Holy Spirit leads us to now fulfill the spirit of the law,not the letter of the law. Again, hopefully, someone else can better elaborate but in the middle of the night...I'm all ya get!
