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Oh I knew someone was going to ask that question, that is why I said that we observe Sunday. Here it has always been observed Sunday, and later in my adult life I find out that many say Saturday with Sunday being the first day of the week. Sigh. I really do not know which day it is, but I observe it on Sunday.
But Sunday is the first day of the week. And even as time has evolved and calendars have come and gone, the order of days remains the same. Even calendars today show Sunday as the first day of the week. No where in the Bible will you find support for Sunday observance, if you do let me know. Sunday worship is based strictly on tradition. And there was no special instruction given for recurrent Sunday worship in the Bible based on the fact that Jesus rose on that day. Just do your homework; I mentioned this before. Go the library and research the Saturday Sabbath, and how it was changed to Sunday, it's free information. You no longer have to be confused unless you chose to. Here's a start:
Read Mark the 15th and 16th chapters, pay close attention to 15:42,46, and 47. Then chapter 16:1-9.
Last edited by jeweloflight; 05-27-2007 at 06:25 PM..
Ok, your explanations make sense but the particular commandment I mentioned about not working on the sabbath would be one of the easiest ones to obey but I actually don't think I've even met anyone who does obey it. So there's about 20 people who said that the ten commandments should be obeyed on this poll but our whole society accepts that people work every day of the week for various jobs. I just think it's odd that everybody just lets this one slide and Christians don't even mention it even though the OT states that someone working on the sabbath should be stoned to death.
Well, I've answered that before-that Christians are no longer compelled to abide by the law of the old covenant. The book of Hebrews addresses some of this about sabbaths and how the law was just a shadow of the reality which was later revealed in Christ. If someone thinks they need to abide still by the 10 commandments in a strict legalistic way, they have every right to believe as they desire, but I think biblically that is not supported. But if that is what they think it right, then so be it. We all have to decide for ourselves what is appopriate and should be done. Having said that, though, I again would say that some of these things are basic moral principles repeated in the new testament i.e.-committing murder, adultery etc. Now I would say "sabbath observance" no longer has to be, therefore, on a specific day of the week, Saturday or Sunday (or Wednesday) or whatever!! And even concerning the sabbath, my husband and I personally observe it in a non-legalistic way. For example, he has always made it clear to his employers that short of an emergency, he doesn't go in to work on Sundays. I don't typically do laundry or housework on the Sabbath though I would if something really needs to be done. This is what I mean by a "non-legalistic way." (Some, because of their occupation are unable to observe a sabbath on Sunday...or Saturday. My personal belief though, is that they would do well to set aside another day of the week (when they can be off) to observe a personal sabbath...again in an non-legalistic way. I think God constructed us physically and emotionally/mentally to function best with a weekly rest.) We try to keep it as a day or worship, rest, relaxation, a time to recharge. As I said in my earlier post, Jesus said God made the sabbath for man not man for the Sabbath.
I actually keep the big 10--because Christ has fulfilled them for me.
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (Matthew 5:17)
and
"For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." (Romans 10:4)
Yes, and please don't interpret anything I said in my above explanation, Marks, as being critical of your interpretation how the sabbath should be observed. We all need to be true to our own convictions about how the Christian life should be lived out.
OK I am a none religious type person But yes I think if we all lived by them it would be a better place. Not because of God but because they are common sense. Like if you don't want your neighbor made at you don't sleep with his wife. DUH Honor your parents again Duh. These are good rules to live by even if you don't believe in the lord.
The Bible tells us that if we love GOD then we will fallow his law.
Awesome! So, I can go out and murder innocent people because they are homosexuals or they have slept around? That is God's law isn't it? How about killing first born children? Can I do that too? What about sacrificing my own son? Can I do that too? How about never giving a straight answer to anything and just writing a book in some archaic language that no one understands and bickers about because I didn't know how to make it clear? I'll follow his laws the day he's proven to exist. Otherwise, I'll stay away from the murderous, vial acts that he performed. Hey, all I'm suggesting is that we were created in his image. People rape, murder, pillage, kidnap, steal, lie, cheat, blackmail, and look at child porn on a daily basis. Obviously if we were created in something's image that something must be equally as bad.
Awesome! So, I can go out and murder innocent people because they are homosexuals or they have slept around? That is God's law isn't it? How about killing first born children? Can I do that too? What about sacrificing my own son? Can I do that too? How about never giving a straight answer to anything and just writing a book in some archaic language that no one understands and bickers about because I didn't know how to make it clear? I'll follow his laws the day he's proven to exist. Otherwise, I'll stay away from the murderous, vial acts that he performed. Hey, all I'm suggesting is that we were created in his image. People rape, murder, pillage, kidnap, steal, lie, cheat, blackmail, and look at child porn on a daily basis. Obviously if we were created in something's image that something must be equally as bad.
I don't even know where to begin to respond to something like this. Maybe I just need to turn off my computer and go on to the grocery store as I need to do. Congrats, GCS, you've accomplished something virtually impossible-you've rendered me SPEECHLESS!
I don't even know where to begin to respond to something like this. Maybe I just need to turn off my computer and go on to the grocery store as I need to do. Congrats, GCS, you've accomplished something virtually impossible-you've rendered me SPEECHLESS!
Well...he did say, "How about never giving a straight answer to anything..." and, "...we were created in his image."
Awesome! So, I can go out and murder innocent people because they are homosexuals or they have slept around? That is God's law isn't it? How about killing first born children? Can I do that too? What about sacrificing my own son? Can I do that too? How about never giving a straight answer to anything and just writing a book in some archaic language that no one understands and bickers about because I didn't know how to make it clear? I'll follow his laws the day he's proven to exist. Otherwise, I'll stay away from the murderous, vial acts that he performed. Hey, all I'm suggesting is that we were created in his image. People rape, murder, pillage, kidnap, steal, lie, cheat, blackmail, and look at child porn on a daily basis. Obviously if we were created in something's image that something must be equally as bad.
You can't just look at part of the OT. You also have to think about who it written to and the purpose of it. And as far as the people that rape, murder, pillage and all the other bad things you mentioned, guess you forgot about the devil, or you don't believe in the devil either I guess. Being created in God's image means we have self worth and should value ourselfs and not downgrade ourselfs. We have the ability to reflect God's character in our love, patience, forgiveness, kindness and faithfulness, but we also have a free will to choice to do the other things you mentioned.
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