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Old 04-21-2013, 08:21 PM
 
Location: PA/NJ
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What's so funny about wanting to improve my health?
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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What's so funny about wanting to improve my health?
What's funny is that you have determined that 1) You have taken supplements for 20+ years and 2) You are not forgetful. You therefore conclude that taking supplements prevents age related memory deficits.

The real kicker is that not only do you reach this conclusion using faulty logic but that you are only 40 years old.

So, yes, your post was worthy of a giggle. Thanks.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:39 PM
 
Location: PA/NJ
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What's funny is that you have determined that 1) You have taken supplements for 20+ years and 2) You are not forgetful. You therefore conclude that taking supplements prevents age related memory deficits.

The real kicker is that not only do you reach this conclusion using faulty logic but that you are only 40 years old.

So, yes, your post was worthy of a giggle. Thanks.
I always knew older folks were staunch but not completely ignorant
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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I always knew older folks were staunch but not completely ignorant
I have been posting in this Retirement Forum for three years now, and I can assure you that the poster to whom you were responding above is far from ignorant.

Do you understand what a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy is? If so, do you understand that's what poster Lenora was explaining that you engaged in?

Let's see if I can simplify it for you. You claim that you have been taking supplements and that they work. Your proof is that you have not developped forgetfulness or memory loss. Your conclusion is fallacious because you fail to take into account that millions of people who did not take the supplements also did not develop forgetfulness or memory loss. Suppose I bay at the moon twice a month for 20 minutes, and then claim that the reason I have not developped _______ (you fill in the blank) medical problem is my practice of baying at the moon. Do you see the similarity in reasoning?

The Latin expression post hoc ergo propter hoc translates as "after that, therefore because of that", and it is a common elementary fallacy in logic.

I am 69 and I am not ignorant either, for what it's worth. Perhaps you have also heard about the pot calling the kettle black?
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:28 PM
 
Location: southern california
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gmail google has a great sync calendar that includes my lap top and all devices. this is working for me.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Ponte Vedra Beach FL
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Because I've been using them for over 20 years...
Because you've been using them for over 20 years and you're still ok? I haven't been using them for 65 years and I'm still ok too .

BTW - I didn't read enough messages before I wrote the above. You're only 40?

FWIW - note that supplements aren't always benign. And - as people age - supplements can affect them differently - as well as interact with other medication. When you go to a doctor these days - well they usually question you pretty carefully about all the drugs and drug type things you're taking. Robyn
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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I have been posting in this Retirement Forum for three years now, and I can assure you that the poster to whom you were responding above is far from ignorant.

Do you understand what a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy is? If so, do you understand that's what poster Lenora was explaining that you engaged in?

Let's see if I can simplify it for you. You claim that you have been taking supplements and that they work. Your proof is that you have not developped forgetfulness or memory loss. Your conclusion is fallacious because you fail to take into account that millions of people who did not take the supplements also did not develop forgetfulness or memory loss. Suppose I bay at the moon twice a month for 20 minutes, and then claim that the reason I have not developped _______ (you fill in the blank) medical problem is my practice of baying at the moon. Do you see the similarity in reasoning?

The Latin expression post hoc ergo propter hoc translates as "after that, therefore because of that", and it is a common elementary fallacy in logic.

I am 69 and I am not ignorant either, for what it's worth. Perhaps you have also heard about the pot calling the kettle black?

Escort you are telling me that baying at the moon for 20 minutes every full moon is not the reason my toe jam has not come back? I am a product of post hoc ergo propter hoc? Yuk sounds like I need my toe jam back!
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:40 AM
 
Location: PA/NJ
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I have been posting in this Retirement Forum for three years now, and I can assure you that the poster to whom you were responding above is far from ignorant.

Do you understand what a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy is? If so, do you understand that's what poster Lenora was explaining that you engaged in?

Let's see if I can simplify it for you. You claim that you have been taking supplements and that they work. Your proof is that you have not developped forgetfulness or memory loss. Your conclusion is fallacious because you fail to take into account that millions of people who did not take the supplements also did not develop forgetfulness or memory loss. Suppose I bay at the moon twice a month for 20 minutes, and then claim that the reason I have not developped _______ (you fill in the blank) medical problem is my practice of baying at the moon. Do you see the similarity in reasoning?

The Latin expression post hoc ergo propter hoc translates as "after that, therefore because of that", and it is a common elementary fallacy in logic.

I am 69 and I am not ignorant either, for what it's worth. Perhaps you have also heard about the pot calling the kettle black?
Blah,blah,blah...more psychobabble. So what's your point? Other than to make yourselves feel validated by becoming a regular on some forum and beating up on 'outsiders'?...But ok if engaging in pseudo-intellectualism keeps said mind sharp then whatever makes you feel better.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Humor will help. The ability not to take yourself seriously and to laugh at yourself works well for me. You can walk into the living room and forget why you are there and for what..or you can walk into the kitchen and you forget what you came in for..BUT if you walk into the bathroom you rarely forget - there is that physical reminder that keeps you sharp. As you age, remember you will forget all the things that are not important..and remember the things that count.

The other day I looked in the tool drawer and could not remember why..then suddenly it comes to me that I wanted a screw driver to fix something..Then I thought...that would have been a total waste of time...you really don't need to fix that thing that you never use - throw it out.
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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Blah,blah,blah...more psychobabble. So what's your point? Other than to make yourselves feel validated by becoming a regular on some forum and beating up on 'outsiders'?...But ok if engaging in pseudo-intellectualism keeps said mind sharp then whatever makes you feel better.
It's not "pseudo", it's real, but I wouldn't expect you to be able to discern the difference.
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