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Originally Posted by newenglandgirl
With this, now we're getting someplace. Enough of the polishing fingernails on the lapel. This is a societal problem.
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"Society" is an artificial construct.
Community is both real and necessary, but Society is not.
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Originally Posted by newenglandgirl
If the subject as posed is occurring now, what, sociologists would ask, is the general upshot for now as well as the projection to the next generation, which affects our kids and grandkids and society as a whole. What will happen to humanity in the Western World as we move further toward globalization.
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There is an high probability it will collapse just as many other empires and civilizations collapsed.
Since you mentioned sociologists, your Western World consists of the Anglo-World, and then Continental Europe --- the non-Slav Western Europeans. Those are two separate sufficiently distinct Worlds -- if for no other reason than they are homogenous nation-States (Europe) vs heterogeneous country-States (US, UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada) --- which will react very differently to external stimuli.
Let me explain how your world works.
Every civilization progresses through levels of economic development, starting with the Zero Level (Agriculture), 1st Level (Natural Resources), 2nd Level (Heavy Industry), 3rd Level (Clean Industry), 4th Level (Technology) and 5th Level (R&D).
Presumably, in the latter stages/phases of your 5th Level R&D Economy, you'll develop the technology for intra-stellar travel. Your 6th Level Economy then is Natural Resources acquired from planets, planetoids, asteroids and moons. Your 7th Level Economy would be Heavy Industry based on the resources that you are extracting, and so on.
Now that you understand that, wages/salaries are related to the level of economic development. Let's look at real world examples.
It's 1898 --- Batalog in the Philippines gets paid $0.25/day; Pedro in Cuba gets paid; $0.30/day; Jane and Joe in the US get paid $0.30/day to $0.60/day, depending on where in the US they live (Alabama, Ohio, Kentucky, Utah, Montana, Indiana etc etc etc), and what exactly they are doing (ie picking tobacco, walking beans, detassling corn, herding livestock, baling hay, etc etc etc).
Slave wages?
Nope, sorry, those are the appropriate wages for that Economic Level, and that is based on mathematics and not sanctimonious bigotry.
So, Ndela earns $0.03/hour which is the minimum wage in Sierra Leone (about $0.24 to $0.30 per day).
Slave wages?
Nope, sorry, those are the appropriate wages for that Economic Level, and that is based on mathematics and not sanctimonious bigotry.
But it's 2014!
Sorry, those are the appropriate wages for that Economic Level, and that is based on mathematics and not sanctimonious bigotry.
Batalog the Filipino now gets paid $0.60/hour.
Slave wages?
Nope, sorry,....and not sanctimonious bigotry.
All Capital is subject to the Laws of Physics:
no Capital can ever be in two places at the same time.
Capital -- in this instance Cash, Credit, Wealth, Profits, Natural Resources -- either stays in the Philippines, where it expands the infrastructure with electric power generation stations and an electrical grid, plus a telephone system raising the Standard of Living for Filipinos, or.....
the Capital flows to the US, where it expands the infrastructure with electric power generation stations and an electrical grid, plus a telephone system raising the Standard of Living for Americans.
Get it?
Now,
Lather, Rinse, Repeat for ~84 different foreign States that were raped and robbed by Americans.
Fast-forward from 1898 to 1958.....Pedro Jr in Cuba is still only getting paid $0.30/day like his father.
Why?
I just explained why.
Capital either stays in Cuba, where it expands the infrastructure and raises the Standard of Living for Cubans, or.....
the Capital flows to the US, where it expands the infrastructure and raises the Standard of Living for Americans.
Get it?
Americans pressured Batista to grant clemency to prisoners involved in the fire-bombing of an army barracks. That included Castro, whom Americans invited to Mexico for purposes of recruiting Castro to overthrow Batista. Americans assign CIA agent Frank Sturgis as principal case officer.
When Castro gains power, and tries to stop the rape and robbery of Cubans, Americans label him as a "commie" and spend the next 50 years trying to murder him in cold blood.
Same thing in the Philippines.
Americans robbed every penny from Batalog's pockets, and every kernel of rice from his mouth. When Batalog dared to complain, or if his leaders rose up against the puppet-dictators Americans appointed to lord over and oppress Filipinos denying them the very rights Americans cherish so dearly, Americans gunned them down in the streets like animals. Aquino would be a good example.
And now Americans have the gall to curse Batalog because he only makes $0.60/hour, and Rajiv in India is buying goods from Batalog instead of buying them from Fat-Union-Type-II-Diabetes-healthcare-resource-sucking-Fred who makes $35.00/hour.
Same thing in Mexico. Americans invaded Mexico, overthrew the government, and murdered Mexicans in cold blood, because some Mexicans wanted a little bit of Capital to stay in Mexico to expand the infrastructure and raise the Standard of Living for Mexicans.
Fast-forward to 1939, and FDR is so angry he's ready to fly out of his wheel-chair and run to Mexico City to strangle President Cardenas.
Why?
Because the only way President Cardenas could stop Americans from raping and robbing Mexican Capital while causing the fewest number of Mexicans to be murdered in cold blood was to nationalize all natural resources, including the oil and natural gas fields.
FDR was madder than hell, because he needed that Capital to pay for the TVA and the Rural Electrification Program and all of his other silly socialist nonsense.
See, without raping and robbing all those countries of their Capital, Americans would have no Capital to expand the electrical grid, and to finance 50,000+ telephone company start-ups in 1917 --- and those are just the telephone companies that had more than $5,000 1917 US Dollars in revenues, plus your interstate highway system
and everything else that you have that you think you earned but didn't earn at all.
Just think how terrible the Great Depression would have been, if America had not been raping and robbing other countries of their Capital.
Same with Honduras.
Americans sent my battalion there in June, July and August 1989 to ensure there would be enough Capital for Americans to have Cable-TV.
So, I hear things. It's not that I don't trust the people I'm hearing this stuff from, it's just that I have to see this for myself.
I go out with some of the line companies/platoons and we're escorting "Suits" around who are terrorizing these poor villagers. You people have no freaking clue what poverty is. How many hours per week do you spend getting water? That's what I thought. As you might imagine, the reports I filed did not go over well with the chain of command or other agencies. I got transferred to a unit that ended up in Panama to clean up the mess made by Bush the Elder when he was dictator of the Criminally Insane Agency, and then onto Iraq to clean up the mess he and the Neo-Trotskyites made there.
Anyway, fast-forward 20 years to July 2009, and Obama the Peace President illegally overthrows the Honduran government to ensure that Capital would continue to flow into the US so that Americans can have iPhones and NetFlix.
What kind of person is Obama? At the end of the day, just another jack-booted thug willing to commit murder for a Starter Jacket or iPhone.
So, that's the process of
Americanization: raping and robbing the peoples of foreign States of all of their Capital to increase the Standard of Living for Americans....who are, um, exceptionally special.
Bretton Woods didn't help.
It's bad enough that Americans were raping and robbing the peoples of the Caribbean, Central and South America, plus the South Pacific --- I'm guessing everyone forgot your colonization of China....the Chinese haven't. Then Americans came to view WW II as "
to the victor goes the spoils" and license for you to run around the Middle East and North Africa on a murder spree raping and robbing them of Capital.
Globalization is the exact opposite.
The sole driver of Globalization is BRICS. America plays no role, except that of spoiler, reacting to what BRICS is doing.
When BRICS goes into a country, BRICS does not rape and rob the country of its Capital.
BRICS assumes a fair share -- 50%-60% -- and the balance -- 40%-50% -- remains in-country, where it is used to expand the infrastructure and to raise the Standard of Living for the peoples there. BRICS even re-invests a small percentage of fair share back into the country.
This process moves the States from the ZERO Level Economy to the 1st Level Economy to the 2nd Level Economy and so on.
Contrast that with
Americanization which results in the economic progression of States being blocked, hindered and hampered, so that they remain in a perpetual ZERO Level Economy.
The progression through the economic levels results in an increased Standard of Living. That in turn creates Demand-stress, with the end-result being higher prices for commodities.
The Laws of Economics will move to block or retard the over-consumption of any commodity. The Laws of Economics do that by forcing higher prices to the point that consumers are priced-out and can no longer consume the stressed commodity.
And so we have our sanctimonious bigots screaming that minimum wage has not kept pace with Inflation and therefore, the minimum wage should be raised.
See how totally irresponsible that is?
Where is the logic in enabling and encouraging people to over-consume commodities that are already Demand-stressed?
Anyway, Globalization is a process that will continue beyond your deaths, to the end of this Century and on into the next Century.
Unless you are prepared to murder 1.5 Billion Chinese, 1 Billion Indians, 1 Billion Slavs and Turks, and 1 Billion Africans, there is no possible way for you to stop the process of Globalization.
For the US specifically, it is a double-edged razor.
In addition to a declining Standard of Living resulting from Globalization, your strangle-hold on Capital will be broken, and you will lose that, causing your Standard of Living to decrease that much faster. Eventually, BRICS is going to show up in Central America and liberate the El Salvadorans, Nicaraguans, Guatemalans, Hondurans and Panamanians from American tyranny and oppression.
Obama's (and Hillary's) illegal over-throw of the Honduran government was the 14th time since 1898 that Americans have oppressed Hondurans in order to continue raping and robbing them of Capital. 25 years since I was there, the people in those villages still don't have running water or electricity or roads.
BRICS will do more for them in 30 days than Americans have done in 100+ years.
Which brings us back to Ndela.
She's making $0.03/hour, and her wages will double about every 10 years or so, since she is in a developing-State......wages do not double in post-Industrialized States.
Figure around 2060, she'll be making maybe $0.45/hour to $0.60/hour and ready to run her MAZAK machine competing against Fat Union-turd Fred making $35.00/hour.
Who do you think will win that battle?
Fred's going to lose his job, uh, assuming Khan the Turk or Rajiv the Indian didn't
already take his job.
Revenues = #Workers * Collective Wages * Tax Rate
From our 6th Grade Math we know that if we reduce any one of the factors, the resultant is reduced as well.
Your wages will stagnate/decline for the rest of this Century, meaning that revenues for Social Security and Medicare will continually decline --- and then some morons want to shove a universal healthcare system down everyone's throat.
The #Workers will decline as well. Once India moves into the 2nd Level, you'll be losing jobs. China will start eroding your 3rd Level Economy, causing job losses there. The Turks are moving into the 1st Level Economy, and sub-Saharan Africa is moving into the latter stages of the Zero Level Economy.
About 20 years after that, China will be taking your 4th Level Economy jobs, India will be taking your 3rd Level Economy jobs that China didn't take, and then the Turks in Central Asia will be moving into the 2nd Level Economy, while sub-Saharan Africa will be moving toward the middle and later phases of the 1st Level.
No matter what you do, this is going to end badly for you all, but end happily for the other 2/3 of the World....who have suffered your indignation for decades and decades to satisfy your special exceptionalism.
Over the next 12-15 years, $5 to $7 TRILLION is coming out of your economy for Social Security and Medicare. I don't care if you increase the payroll taxes or slash benefits or both, that money is gone....and it will be very painful for everyone, and cause more job losses.
Stagnant/declining wages reduce disposable income, and the typical response is for people to reduce their contributions to 401(k)/pension plans. That reduces the available Capital for your economy, perhaps not much, but it's a reduction nonetheless. I don't profess to be knowledgeable in investments, but those who do not understand the mechanics of Americanization and Globalization, should probably not be investing. That's a good way to end up with little to nothing.
And then savings, well, if Americans save money, then you lose jobs.
No matter what you do, you are all utterly hopelessly screwed.
The Silent Generation and the Boomer Generation are not the cause of this --earlier Generations did this -- but they did wittingly or unwittingly perpetuate it, as did the Tweeners and Generation X-Box and Generation Whine.
100% of the votes cast by everyone were wrong 100% of the time.
That's spilt milk, so no sense in finger-pointing.
In order to solve any problem, you must first have an excellent grasp of how the problem evolved.
Now that you understand the mechanics involved as it relates to the economy and economics and such, you can clearly see that this problem has no resolution:
it cannot be resolved to your satisfaction (meaning that there is no possible way to maintain the present Life-Style and Standard of Living to which people have falsely become accustomed).
You need to work on dealing with a lesser Standard of Living and doing that in a way that is palatable to everyone, to the extent that you can, and once you arrive there, move forward.
Assume for a moment, that America was as benevolent as BRICS. Where would America be, if you only took half of the Capital out of those States?
Your Standard of Living would be about mid to late 1960s.
For those who don't get it, 1974 was the first year that a majority of American households --- 6 out of 10 --- had 2 cars.
Good Luck with that....
Mircea
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