"Not looking for old white guys" (pension, older, seniors)

[eliza61nyc]

Originally Posted by jim9251

Meh, don't eat there. Anyway if a place has good food I could care less about their "social outrage" or whatever today's trend is.

I think if you own a business you can hire whomever you like.

Illegally you can sure but then don't get upset when you have to settle a discrimination case.

Darden thought the same thing and now they have to cut a 5 million dollar check.

Yep, I think stupidity should be expensive.

Yes you can hire whomever you like but as a cosumer with money I can spend wherever I want.

And if a business cannot be bothered to hire on ability and talent, I can't be bothered to spend my money there.



LOL, so how far does that go. if the place has good food and the owner is a child molester, could care less that's a social trend?

What's funny about this is Seasons 52 is pretty much seniors or older folks who eat there.

[Back to NE]

Do we really think "not looking for old white guys" is the official stance of the corporation? Of course not, it was just one sloppy employee who said that and it was turned into clickbait.

[northshorenative]

I think this is common.

A relative of mine, who is retired after 40 years in the wine business, applied for a part-time position in a tasting room of a national winery/restaurant. He knows more about wine than anyone I've ever met and could have sold buckets of wine for them.

They told him they were looking for "perkier". Meaning, cute, young, females - those are all of the types that they hire.

(Maybe they were afraid he would tell the truth about the quality of their product).

[ocnjgirl]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Unless you can prove it was age, sex or race related, which no one ever can, there is nothing anyone can do. I don't have to hire anyone I don't want to. It's virtually impossible to prove.

No employer is going to say in an interview the reason they aren't hiring you. Useless laws.

The very first post in the thread states they have to pay $3,000,000.00. So doesn't that discredit your entire post?

[silibran]

Originally Posted by galaxyhi

It gets tougher these days with electronic applications That won't proceed until you enter a date for high school or college graduation.

That alone can single you as "too old".

We were in olive garden not to long ago. I don't think 90% of the staff was old enough to buy the wines they were serving! I also noted the same staff was mostly all male. But I know restaurants who would not have a male waitstaffer either.

I keep getting turned down for jobs I am qualified for, and I think it is age discrimination. I often don't even get to the interview stage, because of the year of graduations on my electronic applications and electronic resume. Lying about my graduation year is not an option for me, i dont play that way.

There was a report about a Baltimore lady, who had 3 masters and a doctorate degree, but was in her 50s, and was totally disregarded based on her degrees age.

Also there is a national company here in N.Y. that is well known to pay the fines rather than hire 2 kinds of people : those with a criminal record no matter how old the conviction is, and for not hiring those over 35. The fines aren't stiff enough apparently to deter actions like this.

Several people here in their 50s have complained of not getting to the interview stage or past the actual in person interview to the hiring stage in their 50s. If you qualify, and don't get hired and a young person does, it's clearly age discrimination.

Saying it doesn't SEEM to exist, doesn't make it so.

It does not help that HR people are often quite young.

[Eumaois]

Using Liberal logic, that is racism, sexism, and ageism wrapped into one. The unique part of is we are discriminating against older White men.

[shorman]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

If I have 20 applications for a job and I interview all 20 please tell me who I hire? That's right, whoever I want. Why does Hooters have all young girls working there? I haven't seen any old guys waiting tables.

You better hope you never end up in front of a jury. As prevalent as age discrimination is, I would just assume the employer is guilty unless they can prove otherwise.

[MadManofBethesda]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

If I have 20 applications for a job and I interview all 20 please tell me who I hire? That's right, whoever I want. Why does Hooters have all young girls working there? I haven't seen any old guys waiting tables.

For the same reason that the Radio City Rockettes do.

Google BFOQ and educate yourself on that aspect of employment discrimination law.

[yellowsnow]

3M is nothing to these people. They will continue doing the same thing. The fine was not enough to punish them into acting properly.

[StealthRabbit]

"Not looking for old white guys"

Yes, this is common, yes this is true, and the point is?

My boss spewed that logic for many yrs, he added, "NO Gray hair allowed on my team"!!! (Ironically, he is a manager in a very excellent EOE centric Fortune 50, and is getting close to gray on the fringes)

Recently I heard the manager has commented "I want to have the FIRST ALL Millennial dept in the company", so I guess this manager is OUT! or will need to find a dept who WILL take him.

OK... the point is?

(If you are gray, get a job the accepts you... pretty standard for the last few hundred yrs)

If you don't like it... become self employed, or buy your own company. You don't have the time or energy to fight it. Just modify your expectations to include a small dose of reality.