But I won't do that. (death of Meat Loaf) (separate, support, family)
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If he was against masks and mandates and social distancing, what are the odds he was also anti-vax and hadn't been vaxed? Maybe he had a self interest in protecting his concert revenues rather than preserving personal liberties.
I have personally experienced that vaxed people I know who got covid had better outcomes than those I know who were not vaxed. The vaxed people who have gotten covid (including my son) had relatively mild symptoms, while unvaxed people have had harsher symptoms, including hospitalization and death. Meat Loaf's death from covid confirms that for me.
I recently watched his interview with Dan Rather on YouTube. He may have been a great guy and was undoubtedly a great singer and performer, but he didn't seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. Everyone has the right to their opinions, but when your public opinions bite you in the butt, people are going to mention it.
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Originally Posted by Roselvr
Meat Loaf was a huge icon back in the day, he surely deserved a thread title that reflected he passed away.
When I originally saw the thread title, I thought of the song, thought to myself, no way could it be about his death. Open it up, sure enough it is.
Thanks to the mod that fixed the title to read that the thread was about Meat Loaf's death.
Article below on how his wife was with him when he passed. She called him Michael. She said that not a day went by that he wasn't hugging her, telling her he loved and appreciated her and that she was a good wife.
Yeah, me too, especially since I'm younger then a lot of you guys and gals.I'll be 57 in 5 weeks lol
Do you know if he was anti-vaccines and/or anti COVID vaccine? I'm seeing that he was anti mask and vaccine mandates and lock downs. I have not found one that said he was specifically against the vaccine. I even went to his Facebook page.
I did find that he said "if I die, I die" but that really doesn't tell me anything on whether he got any vaccines. He didn't wear a mask, he was hugging just about everyone, living his life which would be stupid if he wasn't vaccinated since he did have health issues like asthma, plus a recent back injury. Everyone I know that has not gotten a vaccine are not doing the things he was doing. If they had health issues, they masked too.
I can understand if he didn't want to take one of the 2 dose ones because I didn't either. I've always questioned new vaccines, even for chicken pox when it came out in 1995. Even back then I questioned what they knew about long term effects to reproductive organs. Refused the vaccine for my daughter because I noticed how many more vaccines a kid born in the early 90's got compared to one born in 85.
I'm not anti-vaccine, I'm about being smart about them. I don't believe in giving more than two vaccines at a time for babies especially because if there's a bad reaction, you don't know which one caused it.
Anyway, the article below is saying Meat Loaf's death is being used as a "political tool" in the COVID war. His friends and family want to celebrate the man that he was plus the joy and laughter he brought to everyone that he met and all of the music he brought to the world, the many years of driving around listening to his music.
The late rocker Meat Loaf was outspokenly anti-vaccine mandate and anti-mask before his death — once telling a reporter, “If I die, I die, but I’m not going to be controlled,” according to reports Friday.
I believe his last appearance was on Mike Huckabee's show. They were unlikely friends and Mike has a lot of great things to say about Meatloaf. He had ongoing health issues and bad back problems. He was 70. I'm sure he put himself through a lot during his heyday. As we all did.
The late rocker Meat Loaf was outspokenly anti-vaccine mandate and anti-mask before his death — once telling a reporter, “If I die, I die, but I’m not going to be controlled,” according to reports Friday.
Ok, well then he died.
You're right, if COVID did kill him, then it killed him. Being anti mandate does not mean he didn't have a vaccine.
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Originally Posted by Dd714
His most memorable appearance to me was on Trump's "Celebrity Apprentice" about a decade ago. He did the ultimate unscripted melt down/freak out that possibly has ever been recorded on live TV, all over some missing art supplies used for one of the apprentice "projects". The object of his ire was Garry Busey (who was just as strange). It was a melt-down of epic psycho proportions.
One epic line, which went on for minutes: "YOU DON’T WANT TO F—— START WITH ME! MOTHERF—–, YOU DO NOT WANT TO F— WITH ME! YOU LOOK IN MY EYE! I AM THE LAST PERSON IN THE F—— WORLD YOU EVER WANT TO F— WITH! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?” while a puzzled and possibly drugged out Bussey looked on. Marc McGrath and John Rich had to hold The Loaf to keep him from physically attacking Busy. I think he had one or two other less dramatic breakdowns in the show as well.
And his art supplies? Found in the corner. It made for great TV. Probably on youtube somewhere.
I used to watch the show, remember Busey but not Meat Loaf lol Not sure why either except it was a long time ago. I found it on you tube, remembered it once I started seeing him flip out. Can't stand Busey.
If he was against masks and mandates and social distancing, what are the odds he was also anti-vax and hadn't been vaxed? Maybe he had a self interest in protecting his concert revenues rather than preserving personal liberties.
I have personally experienced that vaxed people I know who got covid had better outcomes than those I know who were not vaxed. The vaxed people who have gotten covid (including my son) had relatively mild symptoms, while unvaxed people have had harsher symptoms, including hospitalization and death. Meat Loaf's death from covid confirms that for me.
I recently watched his interview with Dan Rather on YouTube. He may have been a great guy and was undoubtedly a great singer and performer, but he didn't seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. Everyone has the right to their opinions, but when your public opinions bite you in the butt, people are going to mention it.
I agree that it's more likely he did not even have one vaccine but it's possible he only got one vaccine like some people I know who got sick as a dog from the first shot, decided they were not going back for another.
I had written more yesterday but ended up not posting it for some reason. I think I mixed some of the quotes up, didn't have time to fix it so I posted everything else.
I'm not anti vaccine, I did not like how they've pushed this vaccine, specifically, it seems they push Pfizer more so than Moderna. I've said I have allergies to a lot of things, the shingles vaccine shot one did a number on me for months. I was sick as heck the first 10 days or so. It put me down pretty bad and the big one, it started closing my throat. I could feel my tongue, roof of my mouth, gums, then it started going towards my throat. I'm clueless what I'm allergic to. My doctor told me not to get the 2nd which I wasn't planning to do.
The 2 shot vaccines were never a consideration for me. If I needed one, it would be J&J which I was forced to get about 3 months ago when my daughter had a friend stay the weekend, as they were leaving Sunday, they got a positive result from CVS. I got the J&J the next day because I'd need to take my grandson if she did get it. The friend had one vaccine, only symptom was loss of taste and smell. I had a slight allergic reaction to the J&J vaccine so I'm not getting a booster. I could feel the mouth to throat start getting numb, thankfully it didn't go farther then that where I'd need to take Benedryl or get a shot. I have an epinephrine allergy too lol
Some how my daughter never got COVID which is surprising because she has a lot of bad health issues from her immune system to her heart.
Anyway, I agree with Meat Loaf, I'm against the mandates, extremely against the government dictating the workers not only get the 2 shots but keep up to date on boosters too. We've lost a lot of medical professionals because of the vaccine mandate in health care. Similar for the military. We're now almost 2 years into when COVID shut the US down in March 2020. I think I had it in February 2020, I've managed to not get infected since then. There are also people working at hospitals who have not gotten COVID in all of this time. I don't feel that they should be forced to put an experimental vaccine into them. I did not want to get one until it's been out a few years. I don't care about the year and something worth of data, I want to see if it will have an effect on fertility since women's flows were affected like I believe it will but that's going way off topic.
I was reading yesterday that the CDC is changing what they consider fully vaccinated. It was that anyone with the vaccine, whether a 2 shot or the one J&J, was considered fully vaccinated with a suggestion to get the booster when it's how ever many months. Now the vaccine(s) are not being accepted as fully vaccinated, you will have had to have the booster too.
I believe there was a fully vaccinated guy in Texas that did while having COVID. He also had health issues like Meat Loaf. In that case they said it was not COVID that killed him, it was due to his health issue. For all we know Meat Loaf could have had a semi-bad case of COVID but his asthma and whatever else health issue he had could have been what actually killed him. Maybe he's diabetic too, he couldn't get his sugar under control. That would happen to my dad when he got sick.
Hopefully someone catches his cause of death because the world is curious.
If you haven’t gotten your booster shot yet, you may no longer be considered fully vaccinated as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention prepares to “pivot the language.”
Since the COVID-19 vaccines became available, many health officials have been focused on getting all Americans to be fully vaccinated. You are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after you complete your primary series (meaning you’ve received both doses of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines or the single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine), according to the current CDC guidelines.
As booster shots became available, many wondered whether the definition of fully vaccinated would change. In early January, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said it wouldn’t.
Two weeks later, the CDC appears to be changing its mind.
“We really want to make sure people are up to date. That means if you recently got your second dose, you’re not eligible for a booster, you’re up to date,” Walensky said. “If you are eligible for a booster and you haven’t gotten it, you’re not up to date and you need to get your booster in order to be up to date.”
Our small group of fully vaccinated Marines are all sick with the CCP Virus. Being vaccinated means very little. My natural immunity is all I care to have.
I'm so thankful for people who speak out against this tyrannical government.
I used to watch the show, remember Busey but not Meat Loaf lol Not sure why either except it was a long time ago. I found it on you tube, remembered it once I started seeing him flip out. Can't stand Busey.
Busey was weird and seemed out of it most of the show. I suspect he was sedated by self-medication.
And add on to the drama:
John Rich escorts Bussey out of the room to keep him from getting his head ripped off by MeatLoaf, and tells him to stay out until Meat cools off. What does the stoned/out-of-it Bussey do? He appeared puzzled at the request and then immediately re-enters the room.
Meatloaf finds his bag in the corner and realizes he was wrong to accuse Bussey of theft. What does Meat do? He gets angry again and starts screaming at nothing.
Great TV. They reconciled later in the show as I remember and Meat explained he was undergoing counseling for anger management.
Busey was weird and seemed out of it most of the show. I suspect he was sedated by self-medication.
And add on to the drama:
John Rich escorts Bussey out of the room to keep him from getting his head ripped off by MeatLoaf, and tells him to stay out until Meat cools off. What does the stoned/out-of-it Bussey do? He appeared puzzled at the request and then immediately re-enters the room.
Meatloaf finds his bag in the corner and realizes he was wrong to accuse Bussey of theft. What does Meat do? He gets angry again and starts screaming at nothing.
Great TV. They reconciled later in the show as I remember and Meat explained he was undergoing counseling for anger management.
On another note, I had Alexa play Paradise by the Dashboard Light (loud) so I could get my own motor running and my dog had a fit. Guess he isn't into learning how to dance. LOL.
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