Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Rural and Small Town Living
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-18-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
3,060 posts, read 2,039,242 times
Reputation: 11359

Advertisements

People have been moving to cities in the US since Henry Ford's day (heck since the Pharoah's days). In US's early days the majority farmed (small landholders) but as non-farm jobs were created by various entities and better wages and education bloomed people wanted to better themselves by moving to a city. Ma and pa stayed on the farm with maybe the eldest son and his family. Farming has never been an easy or financially secure existence, not then and not now.

We have never lived in a large city but as we age we know we can't move to a more rural location, even though I would love to. There is a huge contingent of Boomers who want to stay near their grown children, who are generally located in cities with good jobs. So the aging Boomers stay nearby, in the suburbs, but not way out in the boonies where there is not good access to doctors or hospitals. Heck even poor Boomers can't afford to move to rural US where there are few places to rent and the grocery store may be 20 miles away. They stay where they are.

Japan and many other countries have exactly the same problem. Deserted small towns and rural locations. They are giving away houses to people who will live there.

I've been doing family genealogy and seen the movement of my ancestors from small farms to small towns then larger towns. None of them have farmed for 8+ generations. Why? Because their economic potential was greater off the farm. The towns they lived in had names back then but not now, just a reference on the map.

No one is to blame for loss of rural population. It's not liberal vs. conservative. It's progress and you can't stop it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-18-2018, 04:37 PM
 
13,395 posts, read 13,515,458 times
Reputation: 35712
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2mares View Post
The people who prefer rural life will stay in rural areas, the people who don't, wont.
I hate to break it to the NYT, but we dont need your help.
Get over the source. Overall, across the country, rural life is just fine and dandy? Rural America doesn't need help with anything?

What's the old saying...cut your nose off to spite your face.

You are taking the article as an insult when the real intention is to offer help. Is this how you react when someone offers you help?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2018, 04:56 PM
 
39 posts, read 35,031 times
Reputation: 186
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlygal View Post
Get over the source. Overall, across the country, rural life is just fine and dandy? Rural America doesn't need help with anything?

What's the old saying...cut your nose off to spite your face.

You are taking the article as an insult when the real intention is to offer help. Is this how you react when someone offers you help?
Somehow 2mares pretends to speak for the whole Rural America.

He/she doesn't need help, ergo Rural America doesn't either. Such logic, so simple!

Never mind the opiod crisis, never mind population loss, never mind the increase in poverty compared to urban areas, etc, etc.

The things people will do and say in the name of identity and a need to take something as a personal offense (an article from sodomite NYC egads!).

-- edit --

This is not to say rural areas that prosper do not exists, or that urban areas inevitably prosper more than some rural areas, or they are inherently better or whatever. Life ain't black and white unless we are simple minded.

States like Montana provide examples of rural prosperity. Rural college towns typically provide other examples.

But the reality is that a good chunk of Rural America (or actually, the majority of it) has been experiencing a socio-economic existential crisis for decades, the reasons being too multivariate and complex to capture in an internet post, a tweet or an identity politics sound bite.

Having a prominent newspaper running an article about it should give a moment of reflection, to analyze the content therein and see what is right and what is wrong in the analysis it presents.

But nooooooo, let's take the article as something to be offended about, build it up into a strawman and then beat the heck of it as a way to feel good about something, I don't know what. Pride is cheap and easy to fabricate, or so it seems.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2018, 04:57 PM
 
39 posts, read 35,031 times
Reputation: 186
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr5150 View Post
Like bad traffic, unsafe neighborhoods, being a nobody? Then the urban life for you!
This post is not logical.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2018, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
37,470 posts, read 61,423,512 times
Reputation: 30429
Quote:
Originally Posted by payutenyodagimas View Post
you need to pay for it
My town has internet access through the phone company. That is it. The only other option is satellite service. What other options are you thinking about?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Spring Hope, NC
1,555 posts, read 2,521,704 times
Reputation: 2682
Speaking for myself, born then raised a city boy, married, family, then to the burbs, once the nest was empty, off to rural part of Florida, after awhile couldn't take H/H, moved further North to rural Appalachia, thankfully the people accepted me, they are the salt of the earth.

Through my journey, I've come to realize rural life is where it's at, if you can afford it.
Sure there are run down shacks for bargain prices, in my neck of the woods, a decent house with a large tract of land will cost you, more so with a mountain/water view.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-19-2018, 02:08 AM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
9,455 posts, read 12,552,619 times
Reputation: 16453
Like I’ve said before rural/small town life is not the same everywhere. We live 8 miles from a town of 4500. It has a hospital of over 100 beds that just built a cancer center. Four supermarkets, two car dealerships, a chain and a local hardware store. Yes even a Walmart. Even a 100 person tech firm. Many varied restaurants. At my house we have fiber internet, up to 150mps and cell service up to 25 mps. I could go on, but you get my point. We are over 50 miles from a town of 200,000.

One last point, boomers who desire to live near their children had better be prepared to move every five years as their kids pursue their careers
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-19-2018, 06:21 AM
 
2,830 posts, read 2,504,886 times
Reputation: 2737
If rural living were prosperous and easy, everybody would do it.

Unless one is self-employed, retired, or independently wealthy, rural living will require significant financial sacrifices in return for a more relaxed way of living. Some people luck out and find awesome jobs in rural areas, but those are the exception.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-19-2018, 07:21 AM
 
36,539 posts, read 30,885,552 times
Reputation: 32823
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlygal View Post
Get over the source. Overall, across the country, rural life is just fine and dandy? Rural America doesn't need help with anything?

What's the old saying...cut your nose off to spite your face.

You are taking the article as an insult when the real intention is to offer help. Is this how you react when someone offers you help?
Metropolitan America is telling rural America that rural America has issues and thinks they know how to save us.

Living in a rural community is a choice. You may think that not making 6 figures, not having a Starbucks on every corner, no pizza delivery, no garbage pick-up, no million regulations, spotty WiFi, long commutes is a problem one needs saving from but people who choose to live in rural communities beg to differ. Everyone I know who wants to work has a job, most have at least a bachelors and with a few exceptions dont use drugs.
What exactly do you think those living in rural America need help with?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-19-2018, 07:38 AM
 
36,539 posts, read 30,885,552 times
Reputation: 32823
Quote:
Originally Posted by luis.espinal View Post
Somehow 2mares pretends to speak for the whole Rural America.

He/she doesn't need help, ergo Rural America doesn't either. Such logic, so simple!

Never mind the opiod crisis, never mind population loss, never mind the increase in poverty compared to urban areas, etc, etc.

The things people will do and say in the name of identity and a need to take something as a personal offense (an article from sodomite NYC egads!).

-- edit --

This is not to say rural areas that prosper do not exists, or that urban areas inevitably prosper more than some rural areas, or they are inherently better or whatever. Life ain't black and white unless we are simple minded.

States like Montana provide examples of rural prosperity. Rural college towns typically provide other examples.

But the reality is that a good chunk of Rural America (or actually, the majority of it) has been experiencing a socio-economic existential crisis for decades, the reasons being too multivariate and complex to capture in an internet post, a tweet or an identity politics sound bite.

Having a prominent newspaper running an article about it should give a moment of reflection, to analyze the content therein and see what is right and what is wrong in the analysis it presents.

But nooooooo, let's take the article as something to be offended about, build it up into a strawman and then beat the heck of it as a way to feel good about something, I don't know what. Pride is cheap and easy to fabricate, or so it seems.
And somehow those living in urban areas pretend to speak for the whole Rural America overlooking the fact that urban areas are also facing drug problems and poverty. Every area of our country faces its own problems, all have negatives and positives and we are free to live where ever we choose. I think metro, urban and rural areas should worry about their own issues.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Rural and Small Town Living

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:29 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top