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Old 01-15-2022, 02:27 AM
 
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Nothing stays the same. The perfect place is always changing slowly but surely.
Still looking for that perfect place too.
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Old 01-15-2022, 02:31 AM
 
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Might just keep traveling in RV as well... at least this is a lot more fun than being stuck in one place forever, like all the folks who never tried a thing sweeter than a carrot and wonder "if others ever find contentment".
The RV is giving you the mobility to check out areas before you finally put down your roots and $$$ to make the best informed decision. Sort of like those people that suggest to rent first and check the area first before making that giant plunge.
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Old 01-15-2022, 03:57 PM
 
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It really depends on what one is looking for; using an RV for validation can be problematic. Viewing the land from one doesn't tell the whole story- you need to be in your area in the worst of days, not the best of days. In the area we were interested in, there were (at the time), zero rentals within 40 miles. Now? The same.

When we "found" our ideal land, we waited until all hell broke loose, and drove 150 miles north to view it in the worst weather storm of 2017. We had our 4x4 gassed and ready, parkas and gloves in our laps. We figured if we get up there, the roads were plowed, all the utilities in the surrounding area were up and running, we had a winner. We actually viewed the property in a blizzard to see where and how a house would fare up here. The striking beauty of the land in the snow storm imprinted an image that has, to this day, never diminished. Now, we view it daily from the warm quietude of a comfortable domicile that has picture windows in every direction, so we don't miss a thing.

We planned for the storms, and built accordingly. Last night, we were surrounded by temperatures ranging form -51F at the SOO, to -31F at Cadillac. Outside temperatures were somewhere in the middle; but inside, we were warm and comfortable, toasting the temperature with hot RUM toddies!!!

Life is good.
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Old 01-15-2022, 05:42 PM
 
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It really depends on what one is looking for; using an RV for validation can be problematic. Viewing the land from one doesn't tell the whole story- you need to be in your area in the worst of days, not the best of days. In the area we were interested in, there were (at the time), zero rentals within 40 miles. Now? The same.

When we "found" our ideal land, we waited until all hell broke loose, and drove 150 miles north to view it in the worst weather storm of 2017. We had our 4x4 gassed and ready, parkas and gloves in our laps. We figured if we get up there, the roads were plowed, all the utilities in the surrounding area were up and running, we had a winner. We actually viewed the property in a blizzard to see where and how a house would fare up here. The striking beauty of the land in the snow storm imprinted an image that has, to this day, never diminished. Now, we view it daily from the warm quietude of a comfortable domicile that has picture windows in every direction, so we don't miss a thing.

We planned for the storms, and built accordingly. Last night, we were surrounded by temperatures ranging form -51F at the SOO, to -31F at Cadillac. Outside temperatures were somewhere in the middle; but inside, we were warm and comfortable, toasting the temperature with hot RUM toddies!!!

Life is good.
This is true. With the RV you get an up front view in your face of the area of your search.
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Old 01-17-2022, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Tioga County
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Default Now..is that a fact?

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Perhaps it was a polite way to respond to overly nosy neighbor without saying it like it is that they're tired of Lyme-infested ticks and judgemental yokels. And of NY communist government.
I'll deal with the easy one first....as far as I could determine..I have found ~4 ticks on me despite doing fieldwork and the like over the last 20 years or so in this area. I could mention things like fire ants, brown recluse spiders, scorpions, black flies..etc.....that I have encountered elsewhere in this country while in the military. But I'm sure you know better...not.
As to the "nosy yokel" remark...this may come as a shock to you, but folks around here will often stop and chat when encountering a neighbor. Yokel???...Got a degree in mechanical engineering, after which I decided to take a different path and serve my country in the military.
In the future, think....before you run your mouth about folks like myself...................
...ps: our county(along with other upstate rural counties)..in "many" ways, ignores what comes out of Albany.
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Old 01-17-2022, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Perhaps it was a polite way to respond to overly nosy neighbor without saying it like it is that they're tired of Lyme-infested ticks and judgemental yokels. And of NY communist government.
There is judgemental, and then there is judgemental.

One of my friends, is a lady, in her late 30s, she lives off-grid out in the woods in a cabin she built by herself.
She likes to challenge herself. Two years ago she told us that her challenge that winter was to go through the winter without wearing shoes. She heats her cabin with firewood that she gathers and chops. For water she uses an axe to chop a hole through river ice and she hauls her water in a bucket. She raises a lot of chickens and ducks, they all need to be fed and cared for each day. She leads a fairly solitary and hard life. When talking with her she has a lot of stories about when she was an Assistant District Attorney. After a while I did not know if I should doubt what she was saying, so I googled her name and sure enough she is a lawyer. I dug a bit further and I found that she was an ADA for Los Angelos county.

She has a good education and she had a good career. But many factors caused her to decide to walk away from that lifestyle.

Just because someone lives rural and is dirt poor does not mean they are uneducated or that they have no other options of how to live.

It would be a mistake to look at her today and to assume that this woman is not educated.

Most hermits I see living in the woods here are generally combat vets. That seems to form a nice neat little package for stereotypes that fit in most people's minds. But in reality not all hermits are vets.
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Old 06-13-2022, 05:41 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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There is judgemental, and then there is judgemental.

One of my friends, is a lady, in her late 30s, she lives off-grid out in the woods in a cabin she built by herself.
She likes to challenge herself. Two years ago she told us that her challenge that winter was to go through the winter without wearing shoes. She heats her cabin with firewood that she gathers and chops. For water she uses an axe to chop a hole through river ice and she hauls her water in a bucket. She raises a lot of chickens and ducks, they all need to be fed and cared for each day. She leads a fairly solitary and hard life. When talking with her she has a lot of stories about when she was an Assistant District Attorney. After a while I did not know if I should doubt what she was saying, so I googled her name and sure enough she is a lawyer. I dug a bit further and I found that she was an ADA for Los Angelos county.

She has a good education and she had a good career. But many factors caused her to decide to walk away from that lifestyle.

Just because someone lives rural and is dirt poor does not mean they are uneducated or that they have no other options of how to live.

It would be a mistake to look at her today and to assume that this woman is not educated.

Most hermits I see living in the woods here are generally combat vets. That seems to form a nice neat little package for stereotypes that fit in most people's minds. But in reality not all hermits are vets.
That statement is true for everyone that is moving to a new state, you are either escaping something or looking for something.

I am from NJ and no matter where I go I am a target yet people don't ask why I left and assume who I am from what they see on TV. The people who give me s**t for no reason are the people that I am trying to leave behind. I always look at people as they have a story so give them a break and don't judge.

No place will be perfect it just needs to be better.
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Old 06-13-2022, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What an interesting thread. Washington is the prettiest state I’ve ever lived in or will live in. Unfortunately, not all rural locations are good, this one is unincorporated and neighbors range from million dollar homes to small ramshackle houses and more crime than is comfortable. In addition, when you have a spouse who hates the rain and is miserable, you’re going to be miserable too. Everyone with a partner knows this is true.

So it’s onward to a sunshine state, no state is perfect, but more sun, a place to keep horses and chickens, a more uniform low crime neighborhood with closer access to airports, good medical, and shopping will be an improvement. The next state won’t have these magnificent views, but a home near the ocean is a pretty good trade off.

I understand the gypsy spirit to roam, but moving is not fun, especially with animals.
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Old 06-13-2022, 12:14 PM
 
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What an interesting thread. Washington is the prettiest state I’ve ever lived in or will live in. Unfortunately, not all rural locations are good, this one is unincorporated and neighbors range from million dollar homes to small ramshackle houses and more crime than is comfortable. In addition, when you have a spouse who hates the rain and is miserable, you’re going to be miserable too. Everyone with a partner knows this is true.

So it’s onward to a sunshine state, no state is perfect, but more sun, a place to keep horses and chickens, a more uniform low crime neighborhood with closer access to airports, good medical, and shopping will be an improvement. The next state won’t have these magnificent views, but a home near the ocean is a pretty good trade off.

I understand the gypsy spirit to roam, but moving is not fun, especially with animals.
If you want to live near either the Pacific or the Atlantic , it will cost you a fortune, especially if you want to bring horses with you. I moved three horses, three dogs, one cat and half my house cross-country twice. You’re right it’s no fun and takes the organizational skills of a Master drill Sergeant to pull it off.


I knew where I wanted to retire 23 years before I was able to get here. I’ve been here 19 years and love my area every bit as much as the first day I unloaded my horses into their new pasture.

Our 25 acre farmette has more than quadrupled in price since we built it in 2003. We have views to die for. A few folks have used the word “bucolic “. Nowhere near an ocean - not even close to a lake but we have views, good land, mild seasons — well except for a few months of high heat/humidity.

We live in an Ag county but even here the cost of poor quality real estate has skyrocketed. We’ve had offers from out-of-state realtors to buy our pasture land - just sign the enclosed document, they mail to us. The best part of this property turns out to be that, while it is prime pasture, it won’t perk for some development where people looking for the Good Life want to move in and then try to change everything about the area to suit them.

I live on a one lane road for a reason — I adore and respect the long time time neighbors who are here but the idea of housing on top of housing on this farm road is a vulgar thought. Thank goodness my younger brother, who has our grandparents farm, feels the same way because he gets the place when we’re gone.

That all said, if you’re serious about moving with horses, and other critters, PM me, lollol. I’m always happy to help a horse owner relocate
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Old 06-13-2022, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If you want to live near either the Pacific or the Atlantic , it will cost you a fortune, especially if you want to bring horses with you. I moved three horses, three dogs, one cat and half my house cross-country twice. You’re right it’s no fun and takes the organizational skills of a Master drill Sergeant to pull it off.


I knew where I wanted to retire 23 years before I was able to get here. I’ve been here 19 years and love my area every bit as much as the first day I unloaded my horses into their new pasture.

Our 25 acre farmette has more than quadrupled in price since we built it in 2003. We have views to die for. A few folks have used the word “bucolic “. Nowhere near an ocean - not even close to a lake but we have views, good land, mild seasons — well except for a few months of high heat/humidity.

We live in an Ag county but even here the cost of poor quality real estate has skyrocketed. We’ve had offers from out-of-state realtors to buy our pasture land - just sign the enclosed document, they mail to us. The best part of this property turns out to be that, while it is prime pasture, it won’t perk for some development where people looking for the Good Life want to move in and then try to change everything about the area to suit them.

I live on a one lane road for a reason — I adore and respect the long time time neighbors who are here but the idea of housing on top of housing on this farm road is a vulgar thought. Thank goodness my younger brother, who has our grandparents farm, feels the same way because he gets the place when we’re gone.

That all said, if you’re serious about moving with horses, and other critters, PM me, lollol. I’m always happy to help a horse owner relocate
It sounds like you found the perfect place and good for you. The thing about here, is I didn’t do enough due diligence on the area first and there was no way to know how my spouse would feel about the rain. He’s really miserable and all winter long, he looks out the window at the rain and sighs.

Your situation sounds perfect, but everyone doesn’t get perfect on the first or tenth try. Bucolic or pastoral, yes, I get it. Unfortunately, you can’t live on views, other things like neighbors or drive distance come into play. I agree with you about tract housing, sometimes the houses are so close together, they may as well share a roof. It’s a shame to see nice land being built on. They’re building another warehouse few miles down the road, a payday loan and more gas stations will probably follow and what was pretty farmland will go downhill fast.

I have a few ideas about moving my chickens, even bought some wire dog cages to put them in. I recently found out they’ll need a health certificate for the new state. The horses would be hauled by websites where you put in information on your current and future state and number of horses, then get bids from haulers. I even thought about going to the future state to house hunt, bring the dogs and board them there, so we wouldn’t have to deal with moving them later on.

Yes, definitely serious about the horses, the youngest is twenty, the oldest is thirty five. I’d be too worried about who and where they’d end up to ever think of selling them. Anyway, I’m happy to PM you and bounce other ideas off you and also hear what you think. Advise is much appreciated. If I could find someone to split the driving, it would be great. Spouse and I will be taking separate vehicles, he’ll drive the truck, I’ll probably rent a van or RV to bring the birds.
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