Highgrove, CA's future and gentrification??? (Riverside, Vista: house, buy, new construction)

[number 4 mvp]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Wealthier residents wanting to move to California will certainly not be buying $400 k condos in Highgrove, though.

Even worse, he mentioned the Carousel mall section near Feldheym that is arguably the most dangerous neighborhood in CA. Highgrove is not much better anyway tho. The whole stretch on the 215 are one the most rundown parts of the LA CSA.

[waltchan]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Wealthier residents wanting to move to California will certainly not be buying $400 k condos in Highgrove, though.

Yes, true, unless UC Riverside campus suddenly grows really big with up to 40,000 students. The future of Highgrove largely depends on the outcome from UC Riverside's improving ranking by US News & Report (now ranks at #85 best in America, better than UC Santa Cruz and UC Merced). And then more investors will come in to demolish old warehouse buildings, after the owners sold them from land appreciation.

[LivingLikeAGradStudent]

The reality lies within these two perspectives. Housing is quite expensive, relative to a decade ago, in Inland Empire areas that previously would be more starter-home level. Yes, the La Cadena/I-215 stretch is ugly, but the Spring Mountain Ranch setting above UCR is pleasant. Don't know about a long-term boost to downtown SB with condos replacing the mall, but it's not Muscoy either.

[number 4 mvp]

Originally Posted by LivingLikeAGradStudent

The reality lies within these two perspectives. Housing is quite expensive, relative to a decade ago, in Inland Empire areas that previously would be more starter-home level. Yes, the La Cadena/I-215 stretch is ugly, but the Spring Mountain Ranch setting above UCR is pleasant. Don't know about a long-term boost to downtown SB with condos replacing the mall, but it's not Muscoy either.

Muscoy is not as violent of an area like the downtown area. It just looks country like a dirtpath and farmer type family living, but dtown otoh is really bad with vagrants, illegal activity, prostitution, murder. The greyhound station is all you need to know about the area.

[waltchan]

Originally Posted by LivingLikeAGradStudent

Yes, the La Cadena/I-215 stretch is ugly, but the Spring Mountain Ranch setting above UCR is pleasant. Don't know about a long-term boost to downtown SB with condos replacing the mall, but it's not Muscoy either.

The challenging question is whether the Highgrove's name will cease to exist or not, and the whole area becomes part of city of Riverside someday. Then, many of the old warehouses get demolished from gentrification.

Some Asian investors are already betting in the SMR and neighboring areas to transform itself into Irvine-like community. Or, UC Riverside is parity to UC Irvine someday in the future. A couple of homes in SMR at the farthest east side with best views are now pushing for $1.2 million price tag in the near future with many hefty upgrades.

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What will the future look like here 20 years later? Rich or poor...???

[Fisherman99]

Originally Posted by waltchan

Yes, true, unless UC Riverside campus suddenly grows really big with up to 40,000 students. The future of Highgrove largely depends on the outcome from UC Riverside's improving ranking by US News & Report (now ranks at #85 best in America, better than UC Santa Cruz and UC Merced). And then more investors will come in to demolish old warehouse buildings, after the owners sold them from land appreciation.

UC Riverside alumnus from way back...barely recognize the campus now. Is projected to grow to 35K student population by 2035...one of the fastest growing UC's for a reason. Yes, it is now ranked nationally at #83 on 2022 US News ranks (above Santa Cruz & Merced) and with the first new medical school in California in 50 years along with Riverside County one of the fastest growing in the nation...The campus is positioned well to continue onward and upward in a big way! Go Highlanders!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-6iSzXCjBxafBL

[waltchan]

Originally Posted by Fisherman99

UC Riverside alumnus from way back...barely recognize the campus now. Is projected to grow to 35K student population by 2035...one of the fastest growing UC's for a reason. Yes, it is now ranked nationally at #83 on 2022 US News ranks (above Santa Cruz & Merced) and with the first new medical school in California in 50 years along with Riverside County one of the fastest growing in the nation...The campus is positioned well to continue onward and upward in a big way! Go Highlanders!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-6iSzXCjBxafBL

Yes, the new UCR long-range development shows that the campus will be expanding with new buildings at the north-side instead, not west of 215/60 freeway that was originally planned. New expansion will be on Canyon Crest Rd., with Spruce St. at the northern point. Interestingly, Spruce St. is next to the Highgrove community, which will be gentrify soon into a college-town urban community with packed apt/condo housing, after demolishing old warehouse buildings. The SMR neighborhood will continue to grow richer and more upscale, for any of the UCR graduates with high-paying jobs that decide to stay here after graduation.

[waltchan]

Nice aerial view of the UC Riverside campus, and Highgrove nearby at the top-edge of photo.

https://insideucr.ucr.edu/sites/defa...%205091-5D.jpg

How can we build Highgrove better into a developed, high-class income city?

From: https://insideucr.ucr.edu/stories/20...-campus-growth

[userxid]

I think the ceiling for Highgrove/SMR is if it becomes like Mission Grove or Orange Crest, which is still a W.

Eastvale, though, is starting to become Irvine-like. Good schools, diverse restaurants, and a 99 Ranch (Cravings) is opening up there.

[waltchan]

Originally Posted by userxid

I think the ceiling for Highgrove/SMR is if it becomes like Mission Grove or Orange Crest, which is still a W.

Eastvale, though, is starting to become Irvine-like. Good schools, diverse restaurants, and a 99 Ranch (Cravings) is opening up there.

The Highgrove/SMR has better air-quality than Eastvale, and often a few degrees cooler. The ocean breeze does not reach into Eastvale that well because of the Chino Hills mini mountain blocking the air. SMR gets the stronger ocean breeze during night times. The elevation is up to 1,420 ft. at the farthest east side.