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Old 03-19-2014, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA/Seattle, WA
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If you are a photographer or photographer type, it's paradise. You have to appreciate urban living and nature. People who love SF love both things. It's rare to have both, usually you have to decide one or the other, but in SF you have both. If parties and beach are you main priorities than SF will suck.
Urban living and nature? I can think of 10 places right off the top of my head........
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:45 PM
 
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If you're going to SF, be sure to wear some flowers...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvCqUguIh8

Man, if you don't like it, just leave. The reasons aren't that important and its not about facts, but the way you feel.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:53 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Someone call the waaambulance.

Don't like it? Put on your big boy pants and find another job and move. I will never understand what possesses people to come onto here and thrash cities like that will solve anything.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:58 AM
 
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Urban living and nature? I can think of 10 places right off the top of my head........
Okay name them and even 10 would still be considered rare.

Name 10 major cities where you don't need to own a car, yet you can go mountain, coastal and urban hiking?

Seattle does not count... it isn't urban, only the downtown area, I used to live there.
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:14 AM
 
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Went to Stanford and never really loved SF but thought I would just learn to love it and settle. But I can't imagine being here for any longer than short term anymore. the cold summers are miserable, the crime rate is ridiculous - my car has been broken into 2x this year alone. Homeless people seem to run the streets, I see druggies about, and people look so miserable.

I would love to live in a real city like London or New York (or even even the total opposite - an unpretentious small town like Austin) but but unfortunately, i'm in tech and it's harder to find equivalent positions elsewhere.
I will never understand.

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I'll start off by saying, have you ever thought of living across the Bay, either north or south, so you can get more bang for your buck? Like Oakland, Alameda, Marin.

You can escape the fog and cold summers by going to Marin or the East Bay.

Sucks about your car, It's happened to me too --- I bet it happens in New York, London, and Austin too.
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:18 AM
 
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Not to mention people here have such an inferiority complex and take this small town so seriously and have a belief that it is Paris or New York. So ridiculous.
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I'll agree with this!
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:10 AM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Most of the people are transplants trying too hard. And most of them will be gone come the next bust. Don't sweat the small stuff and enjoy what sf has to offer.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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I would love to live in a real city like London or New York (or even even the total opposite - an unpretentious small town like Austin) but but unfortunately, i'm in tech and it's harder to find equivalent positions elsewhere.
You could totally live in London or New York if you really wanted to. Or Austin. It's not really that hard. (Though London might be more difficult as an US citizen to find work). It's not like you're saving any money by living in San Francisco.

So stop the "Oh poor me, I'm stuck in this place out west because it's the only place for tech jobs" routine. This goes on a lot on the Seattle forum as well. Tech jobs(which is a broad category) are a lot easier to find in other places than a lot of other professions these days. It's not like it's a category that's hurting for work.




Though since the OP is a one-post poster who never posted again, who even knows if this is real--no offense if it is legitimate. Lot of trolls and sock puppets round these parts though...

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Old 03-20-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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As someone who visited from Pittsburgh, PA for a few months, here is what I think:


6. Whoever mentioned nature: Yeah you have it but its way overpopulated. Someone also seems to have cut down the vast majority of the trees in San Francisco... I was not impressed. Nature, frankly, is much better in my town.
Cut down trees? Have you ever seen pictures of SF before it was settled? There were ZERO trees in the city, just sand dunes, dry grassy hills, and shrubs. The amount of trees that have actually been planted in the City is staggering when you consider that almost nothing grows there naturally. When people talk about 'nature,' they mean the vast networks of local and regional parklands everywhere. There are vast and diverse areas with almost no people and some of the most stunning nature and views anywhere in the world, all around us. You just have to want to get out of the City.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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I don't think SF has any more or any less civic pride than other places I've been. I spend half the year in San Diego, and people here go on and on constantly about it being the best place on Earth, how it's so much better than LA yet always overlooked, blah blah blah. If people think the place they live in is great, then that's a good thing, not a bad thing. The problem is if you don't find your groove, then it becomes annoying to hear other people loving something that you don't relate to. So you have to find the place that works for you. I think a lot of people in SF come from other places, and SF is exciting and beautiful to them, so let them wax poetic about it!

I do find it surprising that people who love London or NYC don't love SF. On the west coast, SF is the most European of any city, certainly the only one with that sort of density, and it's absolutely aesthetically beautiful if you are one to appreciate visual aesthetics. It's also terribly interesting and always changing. Yes, there are homeless people (and down here in San Diego too), but that's because in London and NYC, they can't survive on the streets without freezing to death. And yes, there are some snobby people, like anywhere. That's life. If the negatives of a place ruin the positives for you, then you either have a negative attitude or don't notice or appreciate the positives.

I have at least one friend who complains about the City all the time too, for the same reasons as the OP. But he has issues. The truth is, SF is one of the world's most popular destination for visitors from all over the globe. When I'm in Europe, the travel agencies and airports always have photos of SF in them, and I remember that I get to live where others dream of visiting. It's really an amazing place if you let it romance you and sweep you off your feet.
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