Question About Oakland

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

What are the percentages? Where are they cited from?

Vague references to a strong "Afro-American Upper Class" composed of baseball players, and white collars isn't proof of anything.

Personal experience living and growing up in Oakland... third generation.

I covered a paper route... less than 1 in 10 families was "White" even less Asian and no Hispanics... the route had university professors, surgeons, tribune reporters, KTVU news anchor Denis Richmond... Baseball Legend Joe Morgan... the first African American California Medical Association President, Dr. Clarence Avery and the list continues. All by the way of African Descent.

The problem is first hand knowledge of people going about their daily lives in Oakland is often dismissed or discounted... the Oakland Chief of Police and the SF Chief of Police also lived in the area...

[Mr. Fantastic]

Personal accounts" have a high degree of bias, and credibility issues. No real scholar would use them in describing the demographics of an entire city.

[Ultrarunner]

This is the post I responded to...

Originally Posted by Mr. Fantastic

Oakland is the poster child for wealthy white people separating themselves from poor black people.

And my response is this is simply not true by citing actual examples...

One could even say wealthy people of all colors separate themselves for poor people of all colors...

Race, or being denied the opportunity to buy into a neighborhood based on race is illegal and has been for my lifetime...

My Father attended Oakland Public Schools and became a High School Teacher... he had Black, White, Native American, Asian and Hispanic classmates... and this was in the 1930's

Seems like Oakland has done a better job of integration long before the Federal Government or just about any other city in the United States... 75 years

[Oakland Uptown]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

This is the post I responded to...




And my response is this is simply not true by citing actual examples...

One could even say wealthy people of all colors separate themselves for poor people of all colors...

Race, or being denied the opportunity to buy into a neighborhood based on race is illegal and has been for my lifetime...

My Father attended Oakland Public Schools and became a High School Teacher... he had Black, White, Native American, Asian and Hispanic classmates... and this was in the 1930's

Seems like Oakland has done a better job of integration long before the Federal Government or just about any other city in the United States... 75 years

You do know the troll doesn't really care about that right? The moron just want's to argue for his own pathetic amusement.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

This is the post I responded to...

And my response is this is simply not true by citing actual examples...

One could even say wealthy people of all colors separate themselves for poor people of all colors...

Race, or being denied the opportunity to buy into a neighborhood based on race is illegal and has been for my lifetime...

My Father attended Oakland Public Schools and became a High School Teacher... he had Black, White, Native American, Asian and Hispanic classmates... and this was in the 1930's

Seems like Oakland has done a better job of integration long before the Federal Government or just about any other city in the United States... 75 years

That's nice, reading that gives me that feel good feeling similar to what I feel after seeing a baby smile.

That being said, unless you can say that you know for a fact that there is a high percentage of wealthy Afro-Americans in Oakland, backed up by actual statistics, you have no way of saying those people make up a sizable middle to upper class.

[Faville]

I would live in Oakland, but I sure wouldn't want to teach there.