Bugging out by boat (acres, generator, America, land)
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A 600 NM cruising range is not a lot of ocean, so where and how does he plan to refuel?
And the amount of money you would have to spend on the fuel. To go 600NM on a boat like that it would probably cost thousands of dollars. If you're on a sailboat you wouldn't have to spend anything.
There are relatively small boats (less than 75 feet) that have the range to cross oceans. And some can tanker enough fuel to last a year or more if not transiting under power. Such boats are also capable of storing large quantities of provisions. And they can be equipped with very efficient refrigerators and freezers.
Such boats often have superior communication capabilities.
The great advantage of course is you are not confined to a single location. If thing break wrong you just move out. Such a boat is relatively well protected by simply moving out of reach of shore. A couple of hundred miles off shore the ocean is mostly empty.
It is not a forever solution. Then again no place is...
There are relatively small boats (less than 75 feet) that have the range to cross oceans. And some can tanker enough fuel to last a year or more if not transiting under power. Such boats are also capable of storing large quantities of provisions. And they can be equipped with very efficient refrigerators and freezers.
Such boats often have superior communication capabilities.
The great advantage of course is you are not confined to a single location. If thing break wrong you just move out. Such a boat is relatively well protected by simply moving out of reach of shore. A couple of hundred miles off shore the ocean is mostly empty.
It is not a forever solution. Then again no place is...
Luna Spirit is a forward pilothouse version of the Nordhavn 64/68 series models, one of the most successful models in the Nordhavn line to date. The 64/68 models are now veterans of many transoceanic passages.
Nordhavens are nice...but there are numerous fixers available to one who wants to work at it for perhaps 15% of the cost of a Nordhaven. Getting reliable and robust propulsion will cost but the rest of it can be DIY...
I wouldn't normally comment on a sailing thread (ok, boat thread), but since I have experience in these matters..
First - you need to be into sailing (not power boating). You can't have a bug out/prepper boat without having some base of knowledge and a love of the sea. Viewing a boat as your bug out/prepper rig means you need to understand and live the life beforehand.
Second - You need to map it out logically. Forget anything over 38 feet. Why? Because it'll need to be motored to be manageable. Under 38 feet (or thereabouts), you can handle the thing under sail only if need be (and in a real shtf scenario, you prolly won't have access to clean diesel for very long, if at all).
Third - You need manual systems. All systems need to be manual, or at least have manual backups. You need to be able to pump water from your water tanks to your faucet - manual foot pump. You need to be able to process your waste - composting head or direct manual pump out over board. You need to be able to cook - Alcohol stove or kero is your best option. I like alcohol in a shtf boat, as you can ferment and distill your own fuel, or use high test booze in a pinch. Heat (yup, you need heat on a boat - wood stove is the best for that).
D - Learn how to row a large boat. Scull, row whatever. You need to figure out how you'll move the thing in no air when need be.
5 - Read. Read the Pardey's (ho hum), Tania Abby (better), Jay Fitgerald (good), Hal Roth (great)... etc. Learn about real sustenance sailing.
VI - Skip the research and outfit a Full/Cutaway keel type 60's/70's era boat like a Pearson Triton (28 footer) in the following manner: Remove motor and use motor area for additional water storage, remove furler (go hank up and battonless), install manual windlass (to haul your over sized BRUCE hook, forget the Rocna), install oil lamps inside and out (running lights included, as a backup to your LEDS), install alcohol stove and oven ($$$ for the oven option) or Kero single burner stove (whatever, make sure it's gimbaled), Install oversized bronze chainplates and new wires with stay loc/norseman type fittings, Install windvane self steering (Norvane), solar panels, batteries and some other stuff the wine is making me forget at the moment.
Seventh - Forget what I wrote. Swear off boats forever. Boats will ruin you and make you drink. The world isn't ending and you don't need a prepper boat. Run screaming from anything boat related.
EDIT - The Pearson mentioned above can be made for 20k (including cost of boat). Godspeed, and don't do it.
Last edited by Mr. Maryland; 06-25-2014 at 09:44 PM..
This guy has a yacht for bugging out. In case of SHTF he could escape to a deserted island by sea for months for maybe even years at a time. But he says ocean survival is way harder than land survival. Do you agree?
Yes, when it comes time to bug out, lets not make it as easy as possible, lets throw in the problems the seas or oceans can bring up and throw that into the mix too.
Deserted island? I can't stop laughing.
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