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Old 06-07-2023, 05:04 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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water and sewage arent a problem, I lived on what to you would be a small plot of land out in the countryside, water came from the river and sewage was a hole in the ground, of course there was only one person and needs were minimal.
Was this in the UK?

Even many of the Amish here now are required to have either composting toilets or Porta-a-Johns (which are regularly emptied) in place of outhouses.

Yes, there are locales in the US that you could do what you did, at least short term, but they're few and far between or extremely isolated (think interior Alaska).
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Old 06-07-2023, 05:50 AM
 
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In New York State you can buy cheap land, about 2 hours north of the city it's rural and summer is short and not too many people around and that's the reason it's cheap.
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Old 06-07-2023, 06:07 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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Was this in the UK?

Even many of the Amish here now are required to have either composting toilets or Porta-a-Johns (which are regularly emptied) in place of outhouses.

Yes, there are locales in the US that you could do what you did, at least short term, but they're few and far between or extremely isolated (think interior Alaska).
yes this was in the UK. I lived like this for 12 years, slept in an old wooden caravan/trailer, growing my own food and shooting small game for meat.
probably now would need to have a septic tank, when I lived on Dartmoor (different time, different location-had a Tinners cottage that time) had a brick "soakaway" but I'm not sure these are legal now.
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Old 06-07-2023, 09:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Millions live on BLM land in Arizona each year. You just move around every couple of weeks.
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Old 06-07-2023, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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How about $2k per acre affordable? Is that a pipedream or year-2000 type prices?
Reminds me of 10-15 years ago when they were selling 40 acres of land at that price......down around Marfa.

It was beautiful wild land but for me, with the cash to buy such, there were a number of problems. First, no water. Second, my life is in central Texas and to reach that land, I would need a small airplane.

Finally, that land is in the war zone of the border. Now, at the time when I could have bought, I was just being romantic with the reported border incursions.........but we aren't beating around the bush now.
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Old 06-07-2023, 11:08 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Millions live on BLM land in Arizona each year. You just move around every couple of weeks.
Millions?
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Old 06-07-2023, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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Millions?
Many tens of thousands for sure around Quartzsite, Yuma and other low elevation parts of AZ from October to April. In the hot weather months they move up to BLM land in higher elevations in the western mountain states. Millions would be an overstatement, but at times in Quartzsite it might not seem like it.
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Old 06-07-2023, 06:55 PM
 
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Though most Americans are unaware, only qualified ownership of estate is subject to ad valorem taxes (property taxes). Absolute ownership of private property is a right (and not subject to taxation).
No government instituted to secure endowed rights can tax them. Only government privileges are taxable.
Unfortunately, the "defenders of the status quo" won't divulge this. You will have to read your own state constitution and statutes to see the truth.
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[/indent]Check your own state constitution and statutes to verify that private property is explicitly protected, whereas qualified ownership of estate ("real estate", "real property", "tangible property", etc) is subject to taxation and restriction.
More sov cit irrelevant definitions from a dictionary. No state that has property taxes is going to exempt property from taxation as you describe.
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Old 06-08-2023, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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More sov cit irrelevant definitions from a dictionary. No state that has property taxes is going to exempt property from taxation as you describe.
[a] there is no such thing as a sovereign citizen. It is an oxymoron. Those who use it are just . . . ahem.
[b] no state imposes a tax on private property. all ad valorem taxes are limited to estate (held with qualified ownership). I stipulate I have not read all state constitutions, but the ones I did check do protect private property and only tax estate.
[c] do not believe me - go read your own state constitution and statutes.
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Old 06-09-2023, 01:02 PM
 
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I grew up in Southern Ohio, and thought maybe land back there would still be "cheap". Nope.

Here's about the cheapest thing I saw - 7 acres, $35k, but note that "no building that will create an effluent discharge sewage system permitted"...

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/L...78823262_zpid/
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