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Old 03-21-2013, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Yep....it sure does. Columbia and Lexington. Two. LOL.
Lexington wouldn't be an MSA if Columbia went away.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:46 PM
 
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Actually Charlotte is only partly in South Carolina, so only the part that is in South Carolina counts which is only 199,035 people.

South Carolina statistical areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am surprised Charlotte's city population is larger than Atlanta's.

Greenville
Metro Total - 824,112
Greenville - 61,674
City Area - 28.82 Sq. Mi.
CSA Total - 1,384,996

Columbia
Metro Total - 784,745
Columbia - 130,591
City Area - 134.93 Sq. Mi.
CSA Total - 913,797

Charleston
Metro Total - 664,607
Charleston - 124,632
City Area - 127.49 Sq. Mi.

Charlotte
Metro Total - 1,795,472
Charlotte - 751,087
City Area - 297.7 Sq. Mi.
CSA Total - 2,680,395

Atlanta
Metro Total - 5,457,831
Atlanta - 432,427
City Area - 131.8 Sq. Mi.
CSA Total - 5,712,148
The City Area figures are what is most interesting to me when looking at those figures.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:16 PM
 
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Actually Charlotte is only partly in South Carolina, so only the part that is in South Carolina counts which is only 199,035 people.
The portion of Charlotte's MSA that extends into SC is bigger than that.

York County: 234,635
Lancaster County: 79,089
Chester County: 32,546

Total: 346,270

I know that's still smaller than the MSAs of Greenville, Columbia, and Charleston, but just wanted to make that factual correction.

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I am surprised Charlotte's city population is larger than Atlanta's.
Here's the primary reason:

Charlotte - 751,087
City Area - 297.7 Sq. Mi.

Atlanta - 432,427
City Area - 131.8 Sq. Mi.

Charlotte is over twice as large as Atlanta in terms of physical size. Charlotte's city population is also larger than that of Miami, DC, and Boston.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by kgartm1185 View Post
Actually Charlotte is only partly in South Carolina, so only the part that is in South Carolina counts which is only 199,035 people.

South Carolina statistical areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am surprised Charlotte's city population is larger than Atlanta's.

Greenville
Metro Total - 824,112
Greenville - 61,674
City Area - 28.82 Sq. Mi.
CSA Total - 1,384,996

Columbia
Metro Total - 784,745
Columbia - 130,591
City Area - 134.93 Sq. Mi.
CSA Total - 913,797

Charleston
Metro Total - 664,607
Charleston - 124,632
City Area - 127.49 Sq. Mi.

Charlotte
Metro Total - 1,795,472
Charlotte - 751,087
City Area - 297.7 Sq. Mi.
CSA Total - 2,680,395

Atlanta
Metro Total - 5,457,831
Atlanta - 432,427
City Area - 131.8 Sq. Mi.
CSA Total - 5,712,148
Your numbers are outdated for Charlotte, the new metro is 2.3m. And, by last count, it is part of SC, therefore the largest.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:08 AM
 
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Your numbers are outdated for Charlotte, the new metro is 2.3m. And, by last count, it is part of SC, therefore the largest.
I don't understand why you keep arguing this point. The principal city of that metro is clearly Charlotte, which is a North Carolina city. Thus, it is a North Carolina metro area. The fact that a small portion of it extends over the SC border doesn't change that.

Do you consider NYC to be the largest MSA in Pennsylvania, or Chicago the largest MSA in Indiana?!?
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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The City Area figures are what is most interesting to me when looking at those figures.
Especially since Fort Jackson, very little of which is inhabited, is in Columbia's city limits and is as big as the rest of the city.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:13 AM
 
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I don't understand why you keep arguing this point. The principal city of that metro is clearly Charlotte, which is a North Carolina city. Thus, it is a North Carolina metro area. The fact that a small portion of it extends over the SC border doesn't change that.

Do you consider NYC to be the largest MSA in Pennsylvania, or Chicago the largest MSA in Indiana?!?
You guys Greenville want to be 1st so badly. Look, it depends on the context. If you are marketing SC to a business and the want to look at the 3 largest metros in SC, you would not serve the client well by excluding Charlotte. Yes, the main city is 5 miles into NC but, since part of the metro is in SC, from a client's perspective, you are in a much larger metro regardless of the political boundaries. Over 300k residents in the Charlotte metro live in SC, that is the size of Spartanburg County, not an insignificant number. And, based on the growth rates of these counties, the numbers will be the size of Greenville county in the not too distant future.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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You guys Greenville want to be 1st so badly. Look, it depends on the context. If you are marketing SC to a business and the want to look at the 3 largest metros in SC, you would not serve the client well by excluding Charlotte. Yes, the main city is 5 miles into NC but, since part of the metro is in SC, from a client's perspective, you are in a much larger metro regardless of the political boundaries. Over 300k residents in the Charlotte metro live in SC, that is the size of Spartanburg County, not an insignificant number. And, based on the growth rates of these counties, the numbers will be the size of Greenville county in the not too distant future.
So what. You never had a thing to say before these changes.

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Old 03-22-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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So what. You never had a thing to say before these changes.

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If you remember, we talked about Greenville's metro being in the 850 range.

Why would you ignore Charlotte if someone is looking for a place to live in one of SC's metros? Do you say "well, Greenville is the largest metro, you can't count Fort Mill because the main city in that metro us in NC, you will have to talk with NC?" That makes no sense unless the Greenville chamber and realtors want to show that mythical 1.3m metro number again.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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I didn't realize people made their choice to move somewhere based off of population numbers. I would much rather live in Chicago than in NYC, and I'd much rather call Charlotte home than Atlanta. Size doesn't directly translate into anything.
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