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Old 04-23-2020, 01:53 PM
 
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I think once a week classes is far to little but maybe 3 or four days a week with online components could work? Also dropping costs should not be the goal. The goal should be to produce educated citizens. It drops costs for example to not have vocational training at high schools but our country sorely needs more skilled tradesmen. It drops costs to not have school lunches or moving solely online but again none of those things will help the students.
Even though we have gone online with instruction, our district is still obligated to provide lunches. So they have a drive-up service for parents.
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Old 04-23-2020, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Part of the problem with vocational education in the United States is that of insurance. Having minors operating power tools and other equipment that has the possibility of causing severe injury if misused is a serious liability issue for school districts.
High School students are using power tools, welding equipment, etc., in schools where Voc. Ed. classes is currently offered, and have done so for decades. If students choose a course of study and take pre-requisite classes, by the time they are Juniors or Seniors, they should be ready to use the same type of tools they will be required to use when they graduate and go to work.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:20 PM
 
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Heard a thought today.
Remote education will go down the line of recorded courses and quizs.
Once all of them are recorded, who will need people that participated in them?


A simple real life example. An associate started a very lucrative for our company program. He was not satisfied with level of commissions he was receiving from it and shared a competitor offer, that was much more lucrative pay wise, to my opinion. I asked him - Why they want you? To teach others, how to run that program, so that they can implement it in all of their business venues (national company). To what I said - Well, as soon as you teach them, you will have no value to them anymore and, besides, those you taught will become free for them teachers. You have very little future value.
So he took that offer, quit, burnt his bridges, moved to a different state with family, bought a house. Lost his job 3 or 4 months down the road, as predicted.
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:38 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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High School students are using power tools, welding equipment, etc., in schools where Voc. Ed. classes is currently offered, and have done so for decades. If students choose a course of study and take pre-requisite classes, by the time they are Juniors or Seniors, they should be ready to use the same type of tools they will be required to use when they graduate and go to work.
And in some schools plastic knives and forks have been removed from the cafeteria and only spoons are available.
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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And in some schools plastic knives and forks have been removed from the cafeteria and only spoons are available.
That's usually to save money. Often a "spork" instead of a knife, fork, and spoon, and they certainly aren't safer. Have you ever tried eating that delicious "fruit cocktail" with a spork, only to stab yourself in the lip?
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Old 04-23-2020, 05:18 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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That's usually to save money. Often a "spork" instead of a knife, fork, and spoon, and they certainly aren't safer. Have you ever tried eating that delicious "fruit cocktail" with a spork, only to stab yourself in the lip?
Never had the opportunity since sporks weren't available, only spoons. Although they did offer two sizes. The kids didn't seem to care.
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:12 PM
 
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Heard a thought today.
Remote education will go down the line of recorded courses and quizs.
Once all of them are recorded, who will need people that participated in them?


A simple real life example. An associate started a very lucrative for our company program. He was not satisfied with level of commissions he was receiving from it and shared a competitor offer, that was much more lucrative pay wise, to my opinion. I asked him - Why they want you? To teach others, how to run that program, so that they can implement it in all of their business venues (national company). To what I said - Well, as soon as you teach them, you will have no value to them anymore and, besides, those you taught will become free for them teachers. You have very little future value.
So he took that offer, quit, burnt his bridges, moved to a different state with family, bought a house. Lost his job 3 or 4 months down the road, as predicted.
Except for that video+quiz != learning.
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Leaving fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada
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And in some schools plastic knives and forks have been removed from the cafeteria and only spoons are available.
You mean spork?
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Old 04-23-2020, 08:43 PM
 
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While normal interactive social skills will plummet.
I never felt school was good for this anyway, if anything, detracts from it.
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Old 04-24-2020, 03:30 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You mean spork?
Nope. Nothing with points.
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