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Yes! I don't know how often I have seen this happen to myself or one of my coworkers. Last year, I sent a kid to the office for fighting at recess. Well, my principal comes back to observe me teaching as if I am the one who is in trouble.
Isn't that funny. I have had that happen to me, especially when I was a new teacher. I had one principal tell our curriculum specialist to come to my class and help me with classroom management, even though, half of my kids that school year 1994-1995 were DRUG BABIES. They couldn't sit still, they would talk out of turn, and they were easy to get angry feeding off of each other during my instruction. I quickly learned how to manage very difficult students, whose mothers by the way, were still on drugs.
Fixed a couple pronouns.
I was not involved in the hiring process for the individual and it was done through a job fair/recruitment activity. As it was the guy was only with us for a bit more than 2 years. The same reason, we later discovered, that short circuited his career in the ivy draped halls popped up with under age high school girls.
Some districts are notorious for having major flaws in their hiring process. Open contracts at job fairs based on a short interview etc. I suspect you know what I mean. Fortunately you were there to clean up the mess. It is incredible what some districts allow to slip through.
The problem that I see is that good people do not go into teaching because they have to spend too much of the school day dealing with "social issues" and garbage NOT related to reading/wrighting/arithmatic. If I were to take a teaching job, my contract would have to come with a clause that gives ME the authority to kick anyone out of my class that I deemed unwilling to learn.
The problem that I see is that good people do not go into teaching because they have to spend too much of the school day dealing with "social issues" and garbage NOT related to reading/wrighting/arithmatic. If I were to take a teaching job, my contract would have to come with a clause that gives ME the authority to kick anyone out of my class that I deemed unwilling to learn.
Excellent post.
Let teachers teach. They are not meant to be baby sitters.
The problem that I see is that good people do not go into teaching because they have to spend too much of the school day dealing with "social issues" and garbage NOT related to reading/wrighting/arithmatic. If I were to take a teaching job, my contract would have to come with a clause that gives ME the authority to kick anyone out of my class that I deemed unwilling to learn.
I think you have a solution to one of the problems with the whole public school system. If teachers were allowed to teach and not have to spend the whole day on behavior problems, then other students might actually learn something.
I think you have a solution to one of the problems with the whole public school system. If teachers were allowed to teach and not have to spend the whole day on behavior problems, then other students might actually learn something.
AMEN! - Oops, am I allowed to say that?
I spend way too much time on discipline issues. I don't know what the answer is though. You have to have control of the class to teach and some are harder than others and that is reflected in the grade averages of those classes. The ones I discipline the least, do the best. The ones where discipline is a major issue, do the worst.
I think you have a solution to one of the problems with the whole public school system. If teachers were allowed to teach and not have to spend the whole day on behavior problems, then other students might actually learn something.
The teacher needs to make and "example" of the first kid to defy authority. The rest of the delinquents who had thoughts of starting something themselves would think twice before being subjected to the embarrassment of being called out for ridicule.
The problem that I see is that good people do not go into teaching because they have to spend too much of the school day dealing with "social issues" and garbage NOT related to reading/wrighting/arithmatic. If I were to take a teaching job, my contract would have to come with a clause that gives ME the authority to kick anyone out of my class that I deemed unwilling to learn.
Man, I wish I could do that. Then again, I would in some years be putting out half of my class.
There are some really great posts on here defending those who teach. My mother is a retired teacher of 36 years, my fiancee is a teacher, my best friend's mother is a teacher, and I personally know a handful of other teachers.
It's not an easy profession. There are a lot of people belittling teachers that simply don't understand how many kids are on medication or have severe behavioral issues. So many children live in homes where the parents do not make an effort to be involved in their child's life, and that weight ends up being put on the teacher who has to not only do his or her job but also act as a social worker and sometimes even like a third parent. A few years ago, there was a student in my mom's class that came to school on the first day without any school supplies. My mom bought him notebooks, pencils, crayons, a backpack, etc., and later in the winter she bought him a hat and mittens because his parents were sending him to school without either. She never got a thank you from the parents (and frankly wasn't expecting one).
I work in a stressful white collar profession, but I would never compare my levels of stress to that of my fiancee or my mom. When you have a kid that is disrupting the class because he is off medication or having an emotional setback, those precious minutes of the day are gone and the rest of the day is spent playing catch up to stay on track and meet state guidelines. There are kids that get sent to the principal's office 2-3 times per week, every week. My fiancee has had kids as young as eight years old say things to her that no child that age should be saying. My mom had a kid with oppositional defiant behavior who once defecated in his pants, then pulled some out and threw it at the kid sitting in front. She had another who would throw crying and screaming fits if asked to do simple tasks like read his book or sit at his desk. My fiancee had a kid who would scrawl his name in big, black letters on all his worksheets in defiance to her asking him to do his work, not matter how nicely she would ask. Teachers deal with this stuff on a daily basis, and it is getting worse each year because so many deadbeat parents fail to teach their children basic social skills.
To make ends meet, both my mom and my fiancee had/have summer jobs. Teachers get paid very little for what they put up with and all the extra hours and expense that goes into the job. People who complain about teachers having so much free time seem to forget that they do lesson plans, grade papers, hold conferences, make bulletin boards, volunteer at school functions, and attend meetings before and after school...and they are not paid for any of this. Many teachers hold summer jobs to make ends meet.
As a country we don't give teachers the respect they deserve for what they do--educating our nation's children. We should want our best and brightest to be teaching our children. But with putdowns like "those who can't, teach...." and pay that is basically a pittance for the amount of work involved, I can see why so many change career paths. It's sad state of affairs.
Also, at want point do the teachers take some blame for the poor education system? They are the ones actually doing the educating. But its always the parents, the administrators, etc etc.
Hah! Ever heard of state mandated curriculum? When the state pays your salary it is kind of hard to teach whatever you would like. The education system has been broken for a very long time, and to blaim it on the people in the trenches is ridiculous! Parents can take action as well!
try giving the Book 'The deliberate dumbing down of America' written By Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt , She worked for our Government in the education or lack there of department, It's no accident a child in fifth grade today is half as smart as a child in the fifth grade of the fifty's ...
In fact I believe it can now be read on line free
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