Houston vs. Dallas (Center: professor, history, MBA)

[metroplex2003]

I love how the post dies, then resurrects, then dies, then resurrects....we're at page 149 now!

Plain and simple: DFW and Houston: Both are great. I prefer DFW, then Houston, then Austin, then San Antonio.

[lilmex83]

Originally Posted by Spade

Well, I wasn't talking about that but point taken as far as the traffic and crime. But I'm talking about shopping, museums, arts, sports, recreation. You have it in San Antonio and Austin. But you have more to choose from in Dallas and Houston. But it comes down to preference. I like my metros big. Practically over 5 million and only Dallas and Houston will do if I ever considered moving back to Texas.

I gotta dissagree with the recreation part of it. Downtown San Antonio is full of bars and restaurants. U also have Sea World and Fiesta Texas in San antonio between San Antonio and Austin u have Schlitterbaun water park which is one of the biggest and best in the country. U can go tubing on the guadalupe river where theres girls everywhere. Austin has sixth street with all the bars wildnightlife and live music. I would rather live in San Antonio or Austin anyday. But if I had to choose between H town or the big D it would be houston. I liked the zoo area there. But in all fairness I have friends in houston so I go visit more frequently than I do Dallas.

[First24]

Originally Posted by Dangerfield

A Dallas vs Houston density comparison is meaningless at this point in time. Houston has no real high density urban developments based around a rail system to speak of.

It's not like we're comparing density of NYC, Chicago or DC against Dallas here; it's only Houston.



Zoning and mass transit for starters.

Originally Posted by Angel713

LOL!!

Keep up the ill-informed posts. I'm loving them.

Originally Posted by Metro Matt

Dangerfield, stop with this preposterous rubbish already.

Matt and Angel, instead of throwing accusations and attacks; respond to the subject matter.

What in my original statement was 'ill-informed' or 'preposterous rubbish'?

Was it that I don't feel Houston's minutely higher ppsm density over Dallas is of relevance because neither city right now is considered a center of urbanism? Density numbers are best researched and understood before arbitrarily being used as some sort of advantage. Example, Las Vegas, NV averages appx. 1,000 more ppsm density than both Dallas and Houston; yet, outside of the Strip, LV is one of the most suburban looking 600,000+ resident cities I've ever visited, unwalkable with a below average bus system and no rail service (outside the tram on the Strip). All density numbers are not created equal.

If you have evidence to the contrary, present it, show me different, change my perception. It's called talking through s***, some even call it debating.

Again, respond to what you refute in my post, do not sling baseless attacks.

[houstoner]

Originally Posted by Dangerfield

Was it that I don't feel Houston's minutely higher ppsm density over Dallas is of relevance because neither city right now is considered a center of urbanism? Density numbers are best researched and understood before arbitrarily being used as some sort of advantage. Example, Las Vegas, NV averages appx. 1,000 more ppsm density than both Dallas and Houston; yet, outside of the Strip, LV is one of the most suburban looking 600,000+ resident cities I've ever visited, unwalkable with a below average bus system and no rail service (outside the tram on the Strip). All density numbers are not created equal.

OMG, Las Vegas is awful. I was stunned by how sterile and cookie-cutter it looked! And talk about your no trees! Yuck! Dallas is a veritable rainforest in comparison!

[First24]

Originally Posted by houstoner

OMG, Las Vegas is awful. I was stunned by how sterile and cookie-cutter it looked! And talk about your no trees! Yuck! Dallas is a veritable rainforest in comparison!

LOL, this is true. Vegas does have us beat for natural scenery though, Red Rock and Mt Charleston are some amazing spots.

PS.. I wasn't trying to bash Las Vegas; the city made for a good example of how density numbers can be deceiving.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Dangerfield

Matt and Angel, instead of throwing accusations and attacks; respond to the subject matter.

What in my original statement was 'ill-informed' or 'preposterous rubbish'?

Was it that I don't feel Houston's minutely higher ppsm density over Dallas is of relevance because neither city right now is considered a center of urbanism? Density numbers are best researched and understood before arbitrarily being used as some sort of advantage. Example, Las Vegas, NV averages appx. 1,000 more ppsm density than both Dallas and Houston; yet, outside of the Strip, LV is one of the most suburban looking 600,000+ resident cities I've ever visited, unwalkable with a below average bus system and no rail service (outside the tram on the Strip). All density numbers are not created equal.

If you have evidence to the contrary, present it, show me different, change my perception. It's called talking through s***, some even call it debating.

Again, respond to what you refute in my post, do not sling baseless attacks.

This was the ill-informed part:

Houston has no real high density urban developments based around a rail system to speak of.

You act like Houston is some step below Dallas, too, but the part I quoted is why I said you're ill-informed. You completely dismissed that part of your post. Not surprising at all.

[First24]

Originally Posted by Angel713

This was the ill-informed part:



[/b]You act like Houston is some step below Dallas, too, but the part I quoted is why I said you're ill-informed. You completely dismissed that part of your post. Not surprising at all.

Again, another sound byte without examples. Why do you feel my statement is 'ill-informed'? Name some high density developments built around rail stations in Houston. Tell me, show me, inform me... if you think I'm giving misinformation.

I do not feel Houston is a 'step below' Dallas. You like throwing catch phrases out there like; more density, more diverse and more international, without elaborating exactly how these things give an advantage. I'm simply calling you out on it.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Dangerfield

Again, another sound byte without examples. Why do you feel my statement is 'ill-informed'? Name some high density developments built around rail stations in Houston. Tell me, show me, inform me... if you think I'm giving misinformation.

Nope, I'm not giving you any. You go and research them. You decide to say that line out of nowhere, like you know Houston. But since I'm nice, I'll give you one, Houston Pavilions.

I do not feel Houston is a 'step below' Dallas. You like throwing catch phrases out there like; more density, more diverse and more international, without elaborating exactly how these things give an advantage. I'm simply calling you out on it.

All are true and they can be an advantage to some people and more obvious reasons. You haven't called me out on anything. Your post made me laugh out loud. I loved it.

[First24]

Originally Posted by Angel713

Nope, I'm not giving you any. You go and research them. You decide to say that line out of nowhere, like you know Houston. But since I'm nice, I'll give you one, Houston Pavilions.



All are true and they can be an advantage to some people and more obvious reasons. You haven't called me out on anything. Your post made me laugh out loud. I loved it.

Houston Pavillions. Really? LOL!

Angel, if I didn't find your jokes; err.. I mean, posts so entertaining, I'd probably place you on ignore.

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by Dangerfield

Houston Pavillions. Really? LOL!

Seriously? Wow.

Angel, if I didn't find your jokes; err.. I mean, posts so entertaining, I'd probably place you on ignore.

The truth hurts, so I guess ignoring it is the best option for you.