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Doesn't the steering of the Camry drive like a video game controller? What with all the electronic stuff, there is just no feel on the wheel.
Actually, it's not that bad. I test drove the 2012 Camry at a dealership on the west side of Denver, where the salesman let me drive up several miles up I-70 (twisty freeway going up to the mountains, ~3000ft elevation gain in a few miles) and then going back down on a canyon road. Surprisingly good road feel in the steering. I agree that the steering wheel looks like a video game console, but if you want to see a car that truly does have video-game like steering, look at the 2010-2012 Subaru Legacy.
The Legacy would kick Camry's ass in the handling department considering it is AWD with almost 50-50 power distribution front to rear. Legacy is in an entirely different class. It will almost certainly manhandle the Camry.
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.1 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.1 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 3.4 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 101 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 128 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 173 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.83 g
It's a very quick straight line sedan but it's suspension is still set up for comfort so hard cornering is not in performance car level. Straight line times are respectable for an affordable family sedan with appliance styling. What would be nice is if Toyota could drop this V6 and 6 speed transmission into a light weight coupe like the Toyobaru they're releasing as a Scion.
Please spare us the toyota V6, I would rather have the boxer engine...
Subaru is so far behind in the interior and exterior looks department. I really wish I could consider one, since their AWD is one of the best. But no push button start and a horrible looking interior put me off. I also wish they would sell a $25k Legacy with a turbo and a automatic with paddle shifters. Oh well.
The Legacy would kick Camry's ass in the handling department considering it is AWD with almost 50-50 power distribution front to rear. Legacy is in an entirely different class. It will almost certainly manhandle the Camry.
Ummm, having recently driven both cars, I think not. Test drive the two back to back, then post back here and let me know if your speculations prove to be true. Now granted, I haven't driven the 3.6R Legacy, just the 4 banger (which is probably 95% of the Legacy's sold). But the regular 4 cylinder Legacy Limited that I test drove had exceptionally sloppy steering feel and response.
I owned a 07 Camry SE, I thought it was a good looking car and think the new one is a step backwards with the body style. It looks like a Corolla. I heard the performance did get better, so if that's important to you, and you do like the looks more power to you.
I typically go for cars that are good on power and have great handling characteristics but let's be honest, the majority of street driving is done in a straight line. Most people don't care for or appreciate what a good suspension can do in the twisties.
Your comments make me think of my 1996 Subaru Outback 4 cyl...loved that car. The engine and auto transmission were great in the mountains. My other car was a '97 Camry V6. Two very different cars, and both were great. I think the Subaru was better with the feel of how it drove on the twisty mountain roads. The Camry was a bit more cumbersome, but the V6 with auto trans. was terrific. When living in the mountains, driving back and forth to the 'big city', our cars can take a beating in order to meet schedules.
Please spare us the toyota V6, I would rather have the boxer engine...
I think I know what you mean, comparing the Suby to the V6 Camry. Both are great cars, but have a different feel on the road.
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