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Old 02-02-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Poway, CA
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source?

Mike
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Summerfield FL
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drover you read it didn't you---wdiv detroit -channel 4 news at 5pm yesterday rob mellowey i beleive his name is
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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What you say is probably true and it has been my personal suspicion as well. That said, a reliable source should be provided in this thread.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:28 PM
 
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Dave, I am a x foreign car tech, and it just beats me as to the secret behind this. If this was a simple thing, like carpets and pedal stantions it would be common news..

So far I haven't learned what's up either. There has to be a problem in the fly by wire system, and a big flaw, like the need of a entire new ECU or major map.

I entered the thread hoping for a new specific detail, and all the above is my opinion.

Being more interested in work trucks, the frame problem is my main concern, but even with this call back some heads need to roll, and accountabilty must be delivered to the buying public to re-gain any sence of trust.

I can't understand the secrets. I can't understand these flaws, since these never before, were issues. It is like Toyota, and other makers forgot how to build a vehical.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Incognito
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Blah, blah, blah!
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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It's not a lie.

It's a throttle + brake ECU mod for four models (Camry, Avalon, Lexus ES and IS).

It cuts back on the power if the gas and brake are both pressed at the same time.

This has been in automotive press.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:49 PM
 
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caution, Why in the world would anyone step on the gas and the brake at the same time?

Mr. Cat, some how I missed your point.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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I have all along have been trying to figure out how a stuck gas pedal can cause a vehicle to accelerate,what is causing car to run away?.I do not belive this is problem completely.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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caution, Why in the world would anyone step on the gas and the brake at the same time?

Mr. Cat, some how I missed your point.
I don't know Mac_Muz.

I have read, and also think, it has something to do with the fancy gear selectors and "push to start" buttons that are standard and in some cases optional on these models.

The car, any car, gets run-away acceleration, and if you're not familiar with throwing some exotic auto shifter in nuetral or pressing and holding some "push to start" button to cut the engine, you're going to press the brake.

If the fault is ECU or mechanical, the brake needs over-ride authority, and this ECU mod supposedly provides that for these four models.

I still think most run-away car crashes (often in parking lots) are human error, and we'll still see cars doing this as long as there are people driving.

Drive-by-wire, if it really is the problem, as some rumors indicate, will impact every car with it eventually. Not just one brand. The tech isn't that diverse. (If it were, the aftermarket would not have hundreds of ECU products for nearly every make and model out there.)
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Summerfield FL
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if its human error why is it other cars aren't runaways? oh i just had thought.The cause is a computer hacker that hates toyota cars and is hackin em going down the road ha ha

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