Toyota Comes Clean: 2.3 Million Vehicle Recall For Drive By Wire (Merged Recall DISCUSSION thread) (versus, replacement)

[dave w]

Originally Posted by Lux Hauler

What you say is probably true and it has been my personal suspicion as well. That said, a reliable source should be provided in this thread.

good luck with that

[Steve_TN]

I think it is obvious that all of us can see the accelerator pedal problem is just another cover. The more Toyota tries to cover it up, the more obvious it becomes.

[caution]

Originally Posted by dave w

if its human error why is it other cars aren't runaways? oh i just had thought.The cause is a computer hacker that hates toyota cars and is hackin em going down the road ha ha

cars "run away" all the time, and it is local news

the reason this Toyota problem is "news" is becuase it involves a recall on a brand that worked it's way to the top making quality cars that people want to buy and those customers are shocked.

recalls happen for dangerous flaws frequently. it's life.

in short, dog bites man, not news -- man bites dog, news

FWIW, I own an 08 Toyota that was made and assembled in Japan. It wasn't recalled. I would not buy a Toyota made or assembled in the US, but that has nothing to do with throttle problems or run-away acceleration. We also own a Honda, made and assembled in Japan. So I'm no Toytota fanboy. I just have a problem with wildy distorted perceptions of risk, as in the case of this current recall.

[dave w]

Originally Posted by DanBev

I have all along have been trying to figure out how a stuck gas pedal can cause a vehicle to accelerate,what is causing car to run away?.I do not belive this is problem completely.

I don't know the specifics of toyotas ecm ,but my first thoughts was something in the computer was telling the throttle position sensor to act up.

[dkf747]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

Heres an interesting link people. Seems the original accident that started this whole fiasco WAS the floor mat and NOT the pedal..

http://www.safetyresearch.net/Librar...ee_Inspect.pdf

I read it and I do not see any evidence that it was the floor mat.

[Steve_TN]

Originally Posted by dave w

I don't know the specifics of toyotas ecm ,but my first thoughts was something in the computer was telling the throttle position sensor to act up.

Odds have it it's a software problem. The pedal excuse ranks right up there with the floormats.

[iTsLiKeAnEgG]

If you guys really think its cheaper for them to replace the throttle assembly than flash the ecu then I don't know what to say...

Flashing an ecu to update the brake+throttle condition makes sense but replacing the throttle assembly to cover the ecu error is just ridiculous.

[Steve_TN]

Originally Posted by iTsLiKeAnEgG

If you guys really think its cheaper for them to replace the throttle assembly than flash the ecu then I don't know what to say...

Flashing an ecu to update the brake+throttle condition makes sense but replacing the throttle assembly to cover the ecu error is just ridiculous.

I never said it was cheaper. I just said the throttle assembly isn't the problem.

[johnfrisco]

Originally Posted by Steve_TN

Odds have it it's a software problem. The pedal excuse ranks right up there with the floormats.

A software problem is much easier and less time consuming to fix than a mechanical issue.

[Steve_TN]

Originally Posted by johnfrisco

A software problem is much easier and less time consuming to fix than a mechanical issue.

Regardless of cost, they need to fix the actual cause.