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As far as Marigold's future, is anyone interested in the Bloomsburys? Edith alluded to them when Bertie met her at Michael's apartment in London. Bertie remarked on the way the apartment was decorated and she was describing the people she had met there with Michael. I remembered her mentioning Lytton Strachey. (excuse my spelling )
I think Edith and Marigold would have done fine in London. Much more fun than churning out heirs for Bertie (and his mom) who seems to be an old school wet blanket
Originally posted by brava4 I was never really clear on this but has Michael actually been found dead or just declared dead because no one can find him?
Originally posted by newcomputer
Best I remember, they found his clothing and bodies but it was some time after the incident. You could make a case for mistaken identity. Didn't Edith believe he was alive? (in her heart )
Yes, Edith did state that she felt Michael was still alive (in her heart). I don't think Michael is dead, and I'm hoping he re-appears in the final episode. I think the creator/writers had to find a way for Bertie to exit the show, so they could bring Michael back, and so Edith could finally be with the man she really loved, and for Edith, Michael, and Marigold to finally become a family. Also for Edith to finally be happy and have a happy ending!
There it is then. Good bye Bertie hello Micheal. So much better.
I think Edith and Marigold would have done fine in London. Much more fun than churning out heirs for Bertie (and his mom) who seems to be an old school wet blanket
I think in a real-life situation, Edith and Marigold would have decamped to London never to look back. In TV world, Laura Carmichael liked her job and wanted to stay on the show, hence the convoluted plot to keep Edith at the Abbey.
I did not know that Nigel Havers has remarried. I remember that his wife died a few years ago. He's still very good looking for his age - the heiress is very lucky
I agree, I think they're well-suited, same age. She looks similar to 2nd wife Polly. Also, I misremembered - Georgiana had been an au pair before she met, married, and divorced Bronfman. Not an heiress, but a very ordinary girl who became a fabulously rich divorcee.
What happened to Lady Mary's prerequisite before marriage of seeing if she is "compatible" with the man she is thinking of marrying. That's how she wound up in that hotel with that guy, I forget his name - she wanted to see how their chemistry worked intimately So, does that mean, she can just tell that Talbot would be a good lover for her?
I think there is so much lust between Talbot/Mary, a trial run wasn't necessary. Her reason for spending the week w/Gillingham in London is she wasn't "sure." Translation - no chemistry.
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I think she and Talbot make a beautiful couple and there will be some magic but for the long haul, like seeing their 50th anniversary in 1975, I am not sure.
Exactly. This is a marriage based on chemistry and not much else, imho. I wanted to slap Branson for insisting on this silly (imho) match.
What no one is thinking about here is Bertie himself. Mary was so focused on hurting her sister that she ambushed a guest of the family in her home without a single thought or concern as to how this bombshell was going to affect him. It was classless, disgraceful behavior by someone who was raised to know better. No wonder she sent Carson out of the room. He would have been appalled at such vulgarity. What did Bertie ever do to deserve such abject humiliation?
Even if one were to buy her weak argument that she thought he already knew, anyone with a modicum of class would know it's not polite or suitable breakfast table small talk. "Hey, I know! Let's talk about my sister's, your soon to be wife's, illegitimate child! That would be fun, don't you think, Bertie?" No one with a brain buys that tripe except the Mary apologists.
No, Edith named her correctly in their row.
So are we to excuse Mary every time she behaves badly because of what what Edith did 12 years ago? At what point will Edith be suitably paid back? Or does Mary’s need for revenge have no end?
No matter what happens with Bertie, Edith would do well to move to London permanently. She needs to get away from her bitchy, vengeful bully of a sister. And for sure she needs to take Marigold far away from Mary's reach.
Co-signing your entire post.
The one thing that the British upper class insisted on was manners. You ARE NOT rude to a guest in your home. You DO NOT make scenes.
It seems as if the British upper class on Downton adhere to the rules when it suits. I remember when Thomas humiliated Gwen. If this were real life, he wouldn't have been allowed to even speak in the dining room, much less humiliate a guest.
It makes for good drama, but sometimes takes you out of the show.
The one thing that the British upper class insisted on was manners. You ARE NOT rude to a guest in your home. You DO NOT make scenes.
Exactly. Mary definitely knows better but she simply didn't care. She behaves like a bratty child with no impulse control when it comes to Edith. Bertie's humiliation didn't even register with her, or if it did, she dismissed it as unimportant to her ultimate goal of destroying her sister's chance at happiness. I'm sure her family was mortified by her rude and classless behavior to a guest in their home.
When Edith came back and explained her reasons to her sister it became apparent which of the two of them had grown and gained maturity, and which of them was still an immature, spoiled bully. Never have we seen such a start contrast between the two sisters as we did in that moment.
If that is the case you have a long line of faces to slap, starting with the Dowager Countess of Grantham!
LOL - oh, indeed - the one time Violet disappoints. Love trumps all?? Hogwash. Not believable. Lady Violet is getting foolishly soft in her old age. Actually, Mary should have done the trial run w/Talbot to get it out of her system - and then marry sensibly someone like Gillingham.
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So, does that mean, she can just tell that Talbot would be a good lover for her?
