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Old 06-20-2011, 06:01 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by mochamajesty
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It took them this long to look at the car? The car that Rosie's body was found in? I don't fault them for not knowing the route the car took, but the gas and mileage stuff should have come up much earlier, especially since they had those records at the very beginning of the investigation.
I guess because they didn't know the destination where Rosie was picked up by Richmond.
Until 2 days ago they had no clue that Richmond picked up Rosie in the casino. So knowing that Rosie was picked up in the casino is key to figuring out the route.


Now that I've thought about it some more Terry is my prime suspect. Didn't she not also work as an escort for that Soleil service?
I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was Terry who put up Rosie to become an escort too so she could 'earn' the money to realise her dreams.
Unlike her mother who became trapped in a marriage where she had to give up all her dreams.
No matter how unhinged Midge seems I still don't think her capable of killing her daughter because she ended smack dab in the middle of a midlife crisis.
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Sugar Grove, IL
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first, I was pretty mad that we didn't get the whole ending. I thought that was the premise of the entire show, 13 weeks on one investigation, then the conclusion. a new case for next season! However, I think holder was getting in the car with the current mayor, or someone from his staff. I really thought linden was going to jump off the plane. I really think it was gwen that did the deed killing rosie out of a fit of jealousy. I think there is some type of connection between terry and stan. she cares for him..more than just a sister-in-law. I hate that we didn't get things resolved.
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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That was a great episode and I have no problem at all with them not telling us who the nurderer was. But I know a lot of viewers are upset.,
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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They really cheapened the show with that ending. They billed this as a realistic crime show and they went all conspiracy, crazy ending just to pull everyone into a second season.

The whole thing with Holder makes no sense. If he was set on framing Richmond then they would have found all this evidence and arrested him days ago.
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mochamajesty I guess because they didn't know the destination where Rosie was picked up by Richmond.
Until 2 days ago they had no clue that Richmond picked up Rosie in the casino. So knowing that Rosie was picked up in the casino is key to figuring out the route.


Now that I've thought about it some more Terry is my prime suspect. Didn't she not also work as an escort for that Soleil service?
I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was Terry who put up Rosie to become an escort too so she could 'earn' the money to realise her dreams.
Unlike her mother who became trapped in a marriage where she had to give up all her dreams.
No matter how unhinged Midge seems I still don't think her capable of killing her daughter because she ended smack dab in the middle of a midlife crisis.
I said in my post that I don't fault them for not knowing the route, I fault them for not pulling the gas records before now. That would have led them to the route in an indirect way. The still would have wanted to know why the gas tank was full when the records indicated that the gas tank was half full. Then, they would have wondered where the driver went....etc.

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Old 06-20-2011, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Here&There
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Originally Posted by mochamajesty View Post
It took them this long to look at the car? The car that Rosie's body was found in? I don't fault them for not knowing the route the car took, but the gas and mileage stuff should have come up much earlier, especially since they had those records at the very beginning of the investigation.

Wouldn't they have swept the park earlier, too? They know where the car was found, and it's reasonable to assume the road it took to get to the lake.

I kept screaming throughout those scenes: "WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THIS BEFORE NOW?!"
I know. And let's not forget that they question the parents fairly quickly but it wasn't till the second to last episode that they questioned the aunt and the crazy worker guy below.

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Holder....oh no!

And what if this show wasn't renewed? Would they have left us hanging? I feel like I wasted 13 hours of my life.

That little twist at the end just gets me thinking that this show is going to take a turn to be soap opera-ish, characters just turning back and forth of good and evil for convenience of storytelling and well just the stretch things out. And new characters that will pop up out of the blue, voila!

And what's with Linden returning to the mayor candidate's office (you know when we were left off from the other episode where she heard the ringing from his office.)? To just tell him off, bad detective work, I should say. I mean, he's a prime suspect and at that moment in time she had very little evidence so she decides to go back for a scream-off? Lazy writing.

Sorry, don't think I can accept repeated deus ex machina just for the sake of keeping in with 'seasons' and conventional television format. Don't think you can keep doing what has already been done in the past (looking at you writers).

And this is suppose to be based off the Danish series? I'm sorry, but what exactly is the Danish series based off of? Hmmm .... TWIN PEAKS!! What a round about way of referencing American television culture. And like Twin Peaks, lots of red herring.

I don't care anymore. It was fun. I loved the characters, loved the actors who played the characters and the beginning was great, it had all the makings of being a great series but ... sloppy writing is sloppy writing.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I feel as if I were mislead. If it was not outright stated that we would find out who killed Rosie Larsen in Season 1, it was strongly implied.


It took them this long to look at the car? The car that Rosie's body was found in? I don't fault them for not knowing the route the car took, but the gas and mileage stuff should have come up much earlier, especially since they had those records at the very beginning of the investigation.

Wouldn't they have swept the park earlier, too? They know where the car was found, and it's reasonable to assume the road it took to get to the lake.

I kept screaming throughout those scenes: "WHY HAVEN'T YOU DONE THIS BEFORE NOW?!"

Ok, Richmond, you are innocent of killing Rosie. But you lost major cool points with me when you didn't even mention Bennett during the press conference for the All-Stars. A moment of silence wouldn't have (ahem) killed you.

Terry still creeps me out, and what was that look that she and Stan shared when Stan revealed that Mitch left?

I had a revelation in the scene when Linden almost takes down the murder board in her (old) office: Rosie is as much a mystery to me now as she was 13 weeks ago, and that is a huge fail.

Holder....oh no!

And what if this show wasn't renewed? Would they have left us hanging? I feel like I wasted 13 hours of my life.
Great points all.
I was wondering if the show hadn't been renewed for a second season, would we have gotten a different ending?

And what was up with Linden confronting Richmond in his office? Seriously? Great way to tip him off if he is really the killer.
And, again, no back-up. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

I really feel like the writers were making it up as they went along, a serious deficiency in a story of this type.
And it didn't help that I watched a couple of episodes of "Inspector Morse" and "Cracker" over the weekend - the contrast between writers who know how to construct a mystery and make the characters emotionally complex enough to make me appreciate them even when they have virtually no redeeming characteristics just completely drove home the point of how bush-league this was.
Honestly, I think I ultimately cared more about the idiots on "Harper's Island" and at least that was fun.

This review totally sums up my overall feelings - probably shouldn't read if it you are looking forward to next season:
http://www.aoltv.com/2011/06/19/the-...-finale-recap/

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Old 06-20-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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And what was up with Linden confronting Richmond in his office? Seriously? Great way to tip him off if he is really the killer.
And, again, no back-up. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

The back-up was stupid but the confrontation wasnt. Guilty people make mistakes when they get nervous and she was trying to get him to do something stupid to give them the last piece of evidence he needed. It's not like he could run being someone in the position he was.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The back-up was stupid but the confrontation wasnt. Guilty people make mistakes when they get nervous and she was trying to get him to do something stupid to give them the last piece of evidence he needed. It's not like he could run being someone in the position he was.
Granted, and we've seen that particular scene hundred's of times before (so much for doing something non-formulaic), however, it just seemed like yet another exercise in poor judgment on her part.

Something else that bugged me: would Bennett's wife really not know who Stan Larsen is? The man who was arrested for putting her husband in the hospital? Really?

Overall, it was these sorts of attempts at emotional manipulation without any underlying logic that really annoyed me. Oh, well.

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Old 06-20-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Granted, and we've seen that particular scene hundred's of times before (so much for doing something non-forumulaic), however, it just seemed like yet another exercise in poor judgment on her part.

Something else that bugged me: would Bennett's wife really not know who Stan Larsen is? The man who was arrested for putting her husband in the hospital? Really?

She only would if she had seen a picture or went to his bail hearing which I doubt she did.
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