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Old 03-13-2021, 01:50 PM
 
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I think it was more that Meghan didnt ever think she should bow to anyone.. her ego is through the roof and if she didnt want to play along in the family she should have stayed out.. just wish she would have... This strong woman thing seems to stem from her mother bringing her up on her own.. but she had plenty of help from Thomas Markle in many ways...I brought up three kids without any help and that takes a strong woman.... she wants to grow up and recognise that she had an easy life with her private schools paid for by her dad and her acting and dance lassons etc... Comapred to many other women they had it good.
I wouldn't say that it was her ego that was through the roof, I would pinpoint American nationality.

Keep in mind that the same people who are criticizing Meghan, took issue with Obama, slightly bowing to the Queen of England and to the King of Saudi Arabia.


https://heraldcourier.com/news/presi...efd0bd2b6.html

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Mr. President, let me, a country boy from Southwest Virginia, give you some advice. No U.S. president should bow to any man or woman. There is only one that man should bow to; that is God!

Another thing Mr. President, please don’t travel all over the world and apologize in your eyes what American leaders and our military did wrong (again from your prospective). You, Mr. President, walked on the soil in foreign countries that thousands and thousands of our U.S. soldiers bleed to their deaths fighting for the freedom of Americans and for the freedom of countries all over Europe/Asia and many other areas. You, Mr. President, should be ashamed of yourself. The only person you should apologize to are all living U.S. soldiers and to the families of fallen and deceased soldiers.
This is a common sentiment in the U.S. It only became an issue, when Meghan didn't feel that she needed to worship the British monarchy, simply because of their titles.

Also, keep in mind that the values in America and Europe are different. In America, you are lauded for your accomplishments. Simply being born into a wealthy family is not an accomplishment.

 
Old 03-13-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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"Is there any real evidence that she bullied anyone? I don't believe so. More than likely, she had certain standards that the workers weren't accustomed to. Most Americans are unfamiliar with how lax work environments are in Europe. It is nothing like most work environments in the U.S., where you are expected to perform work actions immediately. [...] I think women who don't have that "it" factor are very threatened and jealous of women, like Meghan, who do."

yes - Europeans are notoriously lazy and slack. And Megan was only trying to get them to shape-up to America's professional standards.
My point wasn't that most Europeans are lazy or that Americans are all exceptional workers. The point was that the UK and America have very different work cultures. Most American work environments (especially in major cities) tend to be more fast paced and the expectations tend to be that you will perform or be shown the door.

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And like, I'm so jealous, she's like so great. And gee she got a great prince, and like why isn't she a princess... and i'm sure they were real mean to her. we know what they're like. We've all seen The Crown.
 
Old 03-13-2021, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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I wouldn't say that it was her ego that was through the roof, I would pinpoint American nationality.

Keep in mind that the same people who are criticizing Meghan, took issue with Obama, slightly bowing to the Queen of England and to the King of Saudi Arabia.


https://heraldcourier.com/news/presi...efd0bd2b6.html



This is a common sentiment in the U.S. It only became an issue, when Meghan didn't feel that she needed to worship the British monarchy, simply because of their titles.

Also, keep in mind that the values in America and Europe are different. In America, you are lauded for your accomplishments. Simply being born into a wealthy family is not an accomplishment.
Maybe she didn't, but if you are marrying into a family, from a different culture, it is respectful to honor that family tradition. Plenty of other people have managed to marry into a different culture & show some respect, because they love their spouse.

Harry could have prepared her better, but I get a sneaky feeling he didn't want her to conform, so he could laugh about it all. He likes to thumb his nose at authority. Very childish.
 
Old 03-13-2021, 02:08 PM
 
Location: USA
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My point wasn't that most Europeans are lazy or that Americans are all exceptional workers. The point was that the UK and America have very different work cultures. Most American work environments (especially in major cities) tend to be more fast paced and the expectations tend to be that you will perform or be shown the door.



yes. I'm sure you're right - London is certainly a backwater city in a third world country.

Have you ever travelled?
 
Old 03-13-2021, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Is there any real evidence that she bullied anyone? I don't believe so. More than likely, she had certain standards that the workers weren't accustomed to. Most Americans are unfamiliar with how lax work environments are in Europe. It is nothing like most work environments in the U.S., where you are expected to perform work actions immediately.

I think they could have complained that her standards/expectations were too high, but I don't think this is the same as bullying. I believe it was mentioned that the people who left, had not performed their jobs.

I imagine that Meghan was stressed, because she wanted to perform well and wanted her staff to do the same. I've watched videos of her performing various royal "duties," and she seemed to always be gracious and respectful. She also clearly has a spark. I think women who don't have that "it" factor are very threatened and jealous of women, like Meghan, who do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftym24v0Ac4
We will wait and see what is said Gia.... who knows..
 
Old 03-13-2021, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Maybe she didn't, but if you are marrying into a family, from a different culture, it is respectful to honor that family tradition. Plenty of other people have managed to marry into a different culture & show some respect, because they love their spouse.

Harry could have prepared her better, but I get a sneaky feeling he didn't want her to conform, so he could laugh about it all. He likes to thumb his nose at authority. Very childish.
I think he was scared she d back out of the marriage if he tried to stop her from being her....
 
Old 03-13-2021, 02:12 PM
 
Location: az
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It was a mistake marrying Meghan. The woman is bad news. A complete narcissist.

When the marriage ends in divorce (and it will...) Harry's will learn just how many people in the UK (never mind the Royal Family) he's pissed off.
 
Old 03-13-2021, 02:13 PM
 
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I think many people have a grave misunderstanding about Meghan. Unlike the other women who had married into the Royal family, she was completely self-made and was already a millionaire. Meghan had a successful acting career and blog, which garnered a lot of lucrative endorsements. Her blog, the "Tig," showcased living well. As such, Meghan had access to all of the clothes and great fashion sense and access to "high society," way before becoming a "Duchess."

Meghan was also a graduate of Northwestern (which is a prestigious topped ranked American university), and worked, prior to her acting gigs at a U.S. embassy in Argentina, after completing her studies in international relations.

Due to her hit cable show "Suits," Meghan had traveled the world and purchased a million dollar home in Toronto, where she lived for a number of years, while filming.

She certainly gained world-wide fame by marrying into the royal family, but that was about it. When she weighed the pros and cons (i.e. not belonging/feeling hated/discriminated against, etc), she chose to leave, which was her right.

I don't believe that Harry simply relocated to America because of his wife and son. By his own admission, he felt trapped and confined by the lifestyle and was looking for a way out. One can live in a palace, and have access to fine clothes and food, provided by others, or they can be the stewards of their own ship. Meghan, always provided for herself, and had no issues choosing the latter.
Great. Then they should both be very happy! And yet...
 
Old 03-13-2021, 02:16 PM
 
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Maybe she didn't, but if you are marrying into a family, from a different culture, it is respectful to honor that family tradition. Plenty of other people have managed to marry into a different culture & show some respect, because they love their spouse.
I think that she did show respect to the British monarchy, but there was a fine line between worshiping the family (and viewing them as superior to her) vs. acknowledging their relative importance to the British public. But as I pointed out, when she felt disrespected and marginalized (and she had a right to her own feelings), she decided that it was best to leave and return to the life that she was most comfortable with. I don't blame her for doing so.

In life, we all make mistakes. Marrying into that family, as an independent woman, who was accustomed to plotting her own course, was a grave mistake. She was smart to change courses.

Since she is no longer working directly (or indirectly) for the monarchy, she has the right to market herself however she wishes. Harry has the same right, since he too is no longer technically, a paid royal and is not receiving any compensation from the British monarchy or British Taxpayers.

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Harry could have prepared her better, but I get a sneaky feeling he didn't want her to conform, so he could laugh about it all. He likes to thumb his nose at authority. Very childish.
If Harry had been truly candid about his family and the circumstances, there wouldn't have been any marriage. I believe he used Meghan to help him cut the ties. Based on what he shared during the interview, he wanted out.
 
Old 03-13-2021, 02:21 PM
 
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It was a mistake marrying Meghan. The woman is bad news. A complete narcissist.

When the marriage ends in divorce (and it will...) Harry's will learn just how many people in the UK (never mind the Royal Family) he's pissed off.
Most marriages end in divorce. If their marriage fails, both parties will be responsible, since a marriage is supposed to be a partnership.

I'm sure he's "pissed off," a lot of British people. But at the end of the day, we only have one life, and it's best that people live, by their own terms.
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