Patterson-Gimlin film is of a real bigfoot...here is the scientific explanation (light, conspiracy)
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Or, are you suggesting 2 guys could pull off a hoax like this in the 60s...but its not possible today?
Three guys did pull off a hoax like this. And here is the obvious thing that the true believers refuse to admit even to themselves: It isn't even a very good hoax.
-) You can see the rubber soles of the bottom of the boots for cryin' out loud.
-) No mammal on Earth has stiff rubber breasts and a hair pattern like this Sasquatch --- but lots of bad movie monsters do!
-) Primates of this size have bare patches along the buttocks. Sasquatch doesn't.
-) When she turns to look at the camera, it's obviously a mask. True believers don't see it because they don't want to see it.
So yes, not only is it a hoax. It isn't even a very good hoax.
And yes, it is entirely possible to do today. Lots of amateurs are still doing it. A quick Google Image search will give you more blobsquatches than you can knock a log at --- both photo and video.
So why aren't professionals doing really good Bigfoot hoaxes? The most likely explanation is probably the closest one: Because most special effects experts aren't members of the Bigfoot Cult. They are too busy living their lives to dive into Bigfoot mania.
But the movies have given us way better Sasquatches. Harry and the Hendersons and Chewbacca immediately come to mind, not to mention all the Planet of the Apes movies over the years.
Three guys did pull off a hoax like this. And here is the obvious thing that the true believers refuse to admit even to themselves: It isn't even a very good hoax.
-) You can see the rubber soles of the bottom of the boots for cryin' out loud.
-) No mammal on Earth has stiff rubber breasts and a hair pattern like this Sasquatch --- but lots of bad movie monsters do!
-) Primates of this size have bare patches along the buttocks. Sasquatch doesn't.
-) When she turns to look at the camera, it's obviously a mask. True believers don't see it because they don't want to see it.
So yes, not only is it a hoax. It isn't even a very good hoax.
And yes, it is entirely possible to do today. Lots of amateurs are still doing it. A quick Google Image search will give you more blobsquatches than you can knock a log at --- both photo and video.
So why aren't professionals doing really good Bigfoot hoaxes? The most likely explanation is probably the closest one: Because most special effects experts aren't members of the Bigfoot Cult. They are too busy living their lives to dive into Bigfoot mania.
But the movies have given us way better Sasquatches. Harry and the Hendersons and Chewbacca immediately come to mind, not to mention all the Planet of the Apes movies over the years.
Ive seen studies of the underside of the foot, they found 'dermal ridges' that are similar to other large footprints found in other areas over the years, they claim this dermal ridge is the same.
Regarding the 'hoax'...if hollywood can create GREAT suit and masks today, (which I do agree with)...where are all the modern Bigfoot hoaxes? Where is the next P-G footage from today, that is so much better quality? Compared to the days of P-G, there are 10s of 1000s of bigfoot investigators and enthusiasts today, there should be lots and lots of good quality hoaxes today.
Where are GREAT hoaxes of today then? There should be MANY examples of similar footage, considering the technology we have today?
Or, are you suggesting 2 guys could pull off a hoax like this in the 60s...but its not possible today?
There are a lot of current people in every aspect of this section of the forum trying to pull off hoaxes. One fellow member has posted several 100% fake(IMHO) videos/picturs of bigfoot.
On the dogman side Vic Cundiff(sp?) is less believable than watching a early 70's Warner Brothers cartoon. Todd Standling has a ton of bigfoot videos, obviously very few take him seriously or everyone would believe in them. The meth head acting guy(can't remember name) also has a bunch of bigfoot related videos.
It's not like there are not a lot of hoaxers out there. Most people just laugh and ignore them because they are so obviously fake.
If you ask any one of these believers why you cannot film Big Foot and they will give you a thousand different reasons. The Patterson film is the only film where we can make out something that looks like a Big Foot; that one they believe is real.
That technology was about the best of its kind when that video was made. But today we literally have millions of people with better technology in their pockets and purses; our modern cellphones. Back then we only had a handful of people out actually looking for Big Foot, today we have many plus we have hunters that are forever trying to capture a picture of their next trophy.
So what changed? Did Big Foot die right after the Patterson film was made and all the people that think they saw one since that film are simply nuts? Or was the Patterson film a hoax in the first place and all of these people are misidentifying known animals?
I don't believe that our believers can have it both ways. If Big Foot can be filmed, there should be plenty of trail cameras snapping quality pictures all the time. Unless it does not exist!
Have you seen the recent Progressive insurance commercials with Bigfoot? People are too busy taking selfies out in the woods to even notice Bigfoot, er....I mean Daryl !
There are a lot of current people in every aspect of this section of the forum trying to pull off hoaxes. One fellow member has posted several 100% fake(IMHO) videos/picturs of bigfoot.
On the dogman side Vic Cundiff(sp?) is less believable than watching a early 70's Warner Brothers cartoon. Todd Standling has a ton of bigfoot videos, obviously very few take him seriously or everyone would believe in them. The meth head acting guy(can't remember name) also has a bunch of bigfoot related videos.
It's not like there are not a lot of hoaxers out there. Most people just laugh and ignore them because they are so obviously fake.
Im not talking about those kinds of hoaxes, Im referring to the type similar to P-G, those that are surrounded by controversy and debate, those that have had serious scientific investigations done on every aspect of them and STILL, its 50/50, some studies claim it couldnt possibly be a man in a suit, others studies/investigations say the opposite.
Like I said before, considering how great technology is today, how advanced CGI is, even hollywood costume quality today...there should be LOTS of very high quality hoaxes out there, (that blow P-G out of the water) and can stand up to scientific studies and investigations like P-G has...where are THESE hoaxes?
I find it very hard to believe, that no one has created such a similar hoax to P-G today, given how many people are enthusiasts and cryptid investigators, there is ALOT of money to the person that comes up with the next high quality Bigfoot hoax! (and yet P-G was the last one of this type?) does that sound realistic?
Im not talking about those kinds of hoaxes, Im referring to the type similar to P-G, those that are surrounded by controversy and debate, those that have had serious scientific investigations done on every aspect of them and STILL, its 50/50, some studies claim it couldnt possibly be a man in a suit, others studies/investigations say the opposite.
Like I said before, considering how great technology is today, how advanced CGI is, even hollywood costume quality today...there should be LOTS of very high quality hoaxes out there, (that blow P-G out of the water) and can stand up to scientific studies and investigations like P-G has...where are THESE hoaxes?
I find it very hard to believe, that no one has created such a similar hoax to P-G today, given how many people are enthusiasts and cryptid investigators, there is ALOT of money to the person that comes up with the next high quality Bigfoot hoax! (and yet P-G was the last one of this type?) does that sound realistic?
Not only has the ability to pull off a hoax increased so has the ability to detect one. Just look at all the Todd Standling fake bigfoot stuff. There are several people that have shown exactly what editing he has done to make his BS look real. If a single thing he has filmed/taken pics of was real everyone would believe.
Then as far as I can tell from the little I fallow the subject, I only look at this site. The cash seems to be in fake bigfoot excursions and merchandise, not from fake video. As an example look at all the crap Vic Cundiff sells. The P-G film is old, low quality, extremely shaky, and taken from great distance. Anything from that film that shows any detail at all is from being "digitally enhanced".
If you ask any one of these believers why you cannot film Big Foot and they will give you a thousand different reasons. The Patterson film is the only film where we can make out something that looks like a Big Foot; that one they believe is real.
That technology was about the best of its kind when that video was made. But today we literally have millions of people with better technology in their pockets and purses; our modern cellphones. Back then we only had a handful of people out actually looking for Big Foot, today we have many plus we have hunters that are forever trying to capture a picture of their next trophy.
So what changed? Did Big Foot die right after the Patterson film was made and all the people that think they saw one since that film are simply nuts? Or was the Patterson film a hoax in the first place and all of these people are misidentifying known animals?
I don't believe that our believers can have it both ways. If Big Foot can be filmed, there should be plenty of trail cameras snapping quality pictures all the time. Unless it does not exist!
I will give Patterson credit. He did make a video that is hard to recreate and not that easy to debunk. For a lot of believers that is enough to say it is real. To me it looks like a guy in a costume.
My personal feeling is looking at Patterson's backstory he did believe Bigfoot was real. He went out to find the elusive creature and came up with nothing. He was terminally ill, he needed money and he did not have years it could take to find and film a real bigfoot. He decided to buy a costume and film "bigfoot." He assumed that he would be believed and make a fortune off of it. However that never happened. He died broke spending the last of his money searching for bigfoot like creatures around the world and being scammed on them. Karma.
I will give Patterson credit. He did make a video that is hard to recreate and not that easy to debunk. For a lot of believers that is enough to say it is real. To me it looks like a guy in a costume.
My personal feeling is looking at Patterson's backstory he did believe Bigfoot was real. He went out to find the elusive creature and came up with nothing. He was terminally ill, he needed money and he did not have years it could take to find and film a real bigfoot. He decided to buy a costume and film "bigfoot." He assumed that he would be believed and make a fortune off of it. However that never happened. He died broke spending the last of his money searching for bigfoot like creatures around the world and being scammed on them. Karma.
This particular thread was started by a link that is a hoax in itself. 'Chetu' "Provides Web Development Solutions for your Company". Somebody or some company, that is still making money off of selling the notion of Big Foot, paid a few bucks to have a professional company put together that link supporting Big Foot and disputing any naysayers. If you notice the author of that link is never mentioned. Why would somebody hire a professional software designer to go into such detail other than they have a vested interest in this myth.
Look closely at the OPs link and, unless you do an 'inspect element' they give us nothing to go by to confirm the credibility of the author/s. The Chetu corporation was information I gained from the inspect element. But we still do not know who paid them?
There is no logical reason why there hasn't been other even more credible video at this point. After all, we even have drones now taking videos. Did this creature become extinct in the last 30 years?
Now that Sasquatch knows we're after them with ever increasing scrutiny, they have adapted their lifestyles accordingly.
Now that Sasquatch knows we're after them with ever increasing scrutiny, they have adapted their lifestyles accordingly.
BigFoot loves to be exclusive and not be "caught" if you will. Patti was absolutely heartbroken that her baby was shot and skinned. She let herself be filmed out of anger, hatred of the white man (or any color man that shoots her and her family) and total anxiety.
When you see Patti being filmed there she is an emotional wreck. She didn't care anymore.
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