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I understand that the TTIP talks are moribund. George Friedman, who has written books about international affairs, mentioned that continental Europe regards the United States as a rival. Indeed, it is easy to imagine trade wars between the two.
Somebody commented that you can have trade without a formal trade deal. So could the UK expand exports to the USA without one?
And the US sees the EU as a rival too, that's global competition for you.
Of course you can trade without a formal free trade deal, there are just more barriers to doing so and therefore volumes will be lower and it won't be economical for some products.
I've been eating American steak and chicken for 40 years.I haven't grown an extra pair of breasts or tasted chlorine once.
And as for GM, if science improves the nutritional profile of food ,thereby reducing the need for large quantities of pesticide and increasing crop yield then I'm all for it.
You need to get with the programme dude.
Welcome to the 21st century.
We already eat chlorinaed food in the UK and EU.
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It's not consuming chlorine itself that the EU is worried about - in fact in 2005 the European Food Safety Authority said that "exposure to chlorite residues arising from treated poultry carcasses would be of no safety concern".
Chlorine-rinsed bagged salads are common in the UK and other countries in the EU. But the EU believes that relying on a chlorine rinse at the end of the meat production process could be a way of compensating for poor hygiene standards - such as dirty or crowded abattoirs.
The UK and EU also eat a lot of chicken from places such as Thailand or Lamb from New Zealand or indeed US Non Hormone Beef. The EU lets the US import such hormone free meat already, however there is a quota (maximum) which is allowed to be imported. The UK could simply allow more good quality US hormone free meat to be imported, as the US does produce good quality hormone free meat and will produce more without the strict EU quotas currently in place.
The UK could simply allow more good quality US hormone free meat to be imported
The US wants the UK to accept all beef production though, not just the non-hormone stuff. I doubt they would accept your proposal, especially when they know the UK will be in a weak position desperate for trade deals after Brexit so they will try to use that as an opportunity to push through as many concessions as they can.
If it's 100,000 in Germany then it's going to be several times that in the UK given that we will be the worst affected country.
If Mini production at Cowley ceased then that would be 100% of BMWs UK manufacturing gone, I can't see 100% of their German plants closing over Brexit!
If it's 100,000 in Germany then it's going to be several times that in the UK given that we will be the worst affected country.
If Mini production at Cowley ceased then that would be 100% of BMWs UK manufacturing gone, I can't see 100% of their German plants closing over Brexit!
Britain isn't a major manufacturing country and doesn't have the agricultural sector due to it's size that other European countries have, that why we fought and later received a rebate in terms of the Common Agricultural Policy.
It's also why the EU has a $100 Billion a year trade surplus with the UK, and Germany even has a surplus with the UK in terms of the financial sector, which is a global sector and which the EU has little control over.
Britain will suffer, but not several times more, and Britain has the chance to deregulate from EU Financial laws attract more trade and to do more trade deals in terms of finance, and the UK can also look at scrapping some tariffs altogether. In terms of a no deal it would also put in to question Britain's future relations in other areas such as defence and we could in these areas form coser links with Canzuk and the US over Europe.
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More British people work in manufacturing than in financial services. The UK is in the top 10 manufacturing countries globally in terms of output, it was #8 in 2015 for example and of lot of services are related to manufacturing industry and also benefit from that production base. If manufacturing is damaged then those sectors of the service industry that are closely linked to it will also suffer.
And while Germany would only be having its exports to one country hit, the UK would see problems for exports not only to Germany, but also to France, and the Netherlands, and Italy, and Belgium etc etc etc so the effect is multiplied compared with the potential losses for any EU country.
And its not just about tariffs, its about more difficult logistics, increased paperwork etc.
If the UK just unilaterally scraps lots of tariffs then that's great for other countries exporting to the UK, but why would they then sign a comprehensive free trade deal when they already have tariff-free market access? The UK would have already given away its main bargaining chip so they wouldn't need to offer anything in return, their trade goals would already be achieved.
More British people work in manufacturing than in financial services. The UK is in the top 10 manufacturing countries globally in terms of output, it was #8 in 2015 for example and of lot of services are related to manufacturing industry and also benefit from that production base. If manufacturing is damaged then those sectors of the service industry that are closely linked to it will also suffer.
And while Germany would only be having its exports to one country hit, the UK would see problems for exports not only to Germany, but also to France, and the Netherlands, and Italy, and Belgium etc etc etc so the effect is multiplied compared with the potential losses for any EU country.
And its not just about tariffs, its about more difficult logistics, increased paperwork etc.
If the UK just unilaterally scraps lots of tariffs then that's great for other countries exporting to the UK, but why would they then sign a comprehensive free trade deal when they already have tariff-free market access? The UK would have already given away its main bargaining chip so they wouldn't need to offer anything in return, their trade goals would already be achieved.
Our European 'friends' tend to look down their noses at British goods, I think Britain would have much more success exporting across the globe, the fact is the UK imports FAR more from European countries than it exports, British people are quite happy drinking French wine or eating Italian food but try asking our French and Italian 'friends' if they would be happy drinking English wine or eating British food? I wonder what their attitude would be in return!!? Whereas people in the US are FAR more prepared to 'try' and ultimately 'buy' British, so Brexit makes a LOT of sense to me in that regard.
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