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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
No 314 66.53%
Voters: 472. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-16-2017, 05:29 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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What will happen if there's another No vote win? Can we expect another referendum in 2020? Scotland has the classic case of voting left because they have it too comfy, unlike England they don't work (enough) for their bread & butter.

Reminds me a little of the Colombia scenario - once in a union with Venezuela, Ecuador and Panama in 'Gran (Great) Colombia' - Colombia was supposedly the big bad wolf (i.e. England) labeled the Israel of South America. The entire leftist region hated Colombia. But now look at Venezuela with double digit figure recession and over 700% inflation in their petro-economy. Brazil, Ecuador and Argentina all in recession and with double digit inflation in the latter and escalating security issues in the former. Thank goodness Brazil and Argentina have finally learnt the error of their ways and are beginning the hard painful road to recovering their institutions and economy after years of left bureaucracy, overspending, general laziness, massaging figures and dependence on commodities. On the other hand Colombia was the fastest growing major economy of 2015 in LatAm and third in the world only after India and China.

It's time to pull the financial plug. No more bank of mum and dad, shove Scotland out the door.

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Old 03-16-2017, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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What will happen if there's another No vote win? Can we expect another referendum in 2020?
Id imagine for as long as Mrs Sturgeon finds it challenging..some people cant accept defeat..
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Old 03-16-2017, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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What will happen if there's another No vote win? Can we expect another referendum in 2020? Scotland has the classic case of voting left because they have it too comfy, unlike England they don't work (enough) for their bread & butter.

Reminds me a little of the Colombia scenario - once in a union with Venezuela, Ecuador and Panama in 'Gran (Great) Colombia' - Colombia was supposedly the big bad wolf (i.e. England) labeled the Israel of South America. The entire leftist region hated Colombia. But now look at Venezuela with double digit figure recession and over 700% inflation in their petro-economy. Brazil, Ecuador and Argentina all in recession and with double digit inflation in the latter and escalating security issues in the former. Thank goodness Brazil and Argentina have finally learnt the error of their ways and are beginning the hard painful road to recovering their institutions and economy after years of left bureaucracy, overspending, general laziness, massaging figures and dependence on commodities.

It's time to pull the financial plug. No more bank of mum and dad, shove Scotland out the door.
thats a bit harsh.
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Old 03-16-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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thats a bit harsh.
Sometime a bit of (partial) hard truth is what one needs to snap out of it and get on with the real job at hand.
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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A South American acting like his adopted countries anti-immigrant party UKIPs spokesman. You can't write this stuff.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:07 AM
 
Location: England
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It seems that wee nippy and her cohorts have very short memories.

In 2014 after two years of debate, thought, research and, for many, great stress, the people of Scotland voted by an 11% point margin, voted to remain British. By voting to remain British the Scottish people gave their continuing approval to the British government to decide if and when referenda will be held. The "democratic outrage" is that Nicola Sturgeon is acting against the democratically expressed will of the Scottish People.

The SNP were elected to govern Scotland, in the interest of all the people, and to prioritise the management of Scotland's public services and economy. However in what can be described as an anti democratic act they have prioritised the pursuit of a democratically rejected ideology.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Mrs Sturgeon said that the Scottish people had a clear will as to what they wanted.....The did Nicola, they voted, the dont want to leave ,, get it through your head and the use of your own words in the past.. A second referendum is an embarrassment and an insult to all the Scots who voted . The SNP said that it was a ONCE IN A GENERATION CHANCE... but when they got beat they came up with , We meant the generation of a parliament... wonderful how word shifting can be done by her...now the Spanish gov.. say that if Scotland did want into the EU they would have to go to the back of the queue..

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Old 03-17-2017, 08:41 AM
 
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It seems that wee nippy and her cohorts have very short memories.

In 2014 after two years of debate, thought, research and, for many, great stress, the people of Scotland voted by an 11% point margin, voted to remain British. By voting to remain British the Scottish people gave their continuing approval to the British government to decide if and when referenda will be held. The "democratic outrage" is that Nicola Sturgeon is acting against the democratically expressed will of the Scottish People.

The SNP were elected to govern Scotland, in the interest of all the people, and to prioritise the management of Scotland's public services and economy. However in what can be described as an anti democratic act they have prioritised the pursuit of a democratically rejected ideology.
It's a backdoor way to remain in the EU. The SNP hope that a vote to leave will = financial flight to Scotland.
That is how they will campaign, i gurantee it! This is just another plan by the EU to destabilise Brexit.
You also notice that Corbyn ( unlike Miliband ) is supporting the SNP call for a referendum, he is hoping to gain favour again with Scottish voters.
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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It's a backdoor way to remain in the EU. The SNP hope that a vote to leave will = financial flight to Scotland.
That is how they will campaign, i gurantee it! This is just another plan by the EU to destabilise Brexit.
You also notice that Corbyn ( unlike Miliband ) is supporting the SNP call for a referendum, he is hoping to gain favour again with Scottish voters.
Corbyn like Sturgeon is a dud..
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Yeah that dud you can't get rid of. Sturgeon got 48% of the vote. Even Blair in 97 didn't get that.
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