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Seems strange that BJ would throw the DUP under the bus, he's staking the entire leave project success on being rock solid behind them, the genesis of the opposition to the backstop lies with the DUP
Boris will mouth support for the DUP as long as he needs them. When he doesn't any more, he won't give them a backward glance. All the time swearing loyalty to the union of course........
Just get us out of that cursed island, once and for all........
No offence to you Bob. You're Irish and want your land reunited again. I understand that. But as long as the Unionists are there, it's nothing but a poisoned chalice.
I just wish we'd had the courage to get out of Ireland back in 1971. If we had, it wouldn't be a problem for us these days. I have no feelings of loyalty to Ulster, and have no interest in supporting the Unionists there. Sorry Ulsterman, I know you are a good sort. Just get out of there, like so many of your countrymen have done before you.
Let the Irish continue their very good act of being everybody's friend. It's a great show, and has fooled the world for many decades. You and I know better, but maybe it's time to throw in the towel.
Given how much Ireland depends on the UK ,not least with using it as a land-bridge to Europe, Paddy will not be in a position to do much.
Ireland's position as the EU's useful idiot is now reaching the end of its sell-by date.
Once No Deal Brexit happens Paddy will be in for a big shock.
Using 'Paddy' to refer to Ireland is a really good example of the sort of arrogant superiority complex that affects many Brexiteers and blinds them to the realities of the modern situation just as other comments I've seen from Brexiteers here referring to the Irish PM as a 'jumped up little pipsqueak' or whatever. The world has moved on from 'Brittania rules the waves' and you can't just send in the gunboats to tame the disruptive natives like in the 19th century. The UK Brexiteers often seem to still live in a world of imperial era stereotypes when the rest of the world has long since moved on from that era.
The UK was the market for 90% of Irish exports in 1945, now it is 11% and falling year on year, and meanwhile Ireland has gone from being significantly poorer than the UK to being significantly richer than the UK, yet some British people I'm ashamed to associate with still disparagingly demean the country as 'stupid Paddy', 'jumped up little pipsqueaks who don't know their place', 'dumb minions of Brussels' 'good little dog of the EU' etc which is really not a very dignified approach to dealing with our neighbours who we should be treating as equals, friends and allies.
If the EU and its lackeys nullify Brexit that will be the true beginning of the end for the UK. Just as Beijing has made a mockery of “two systems, one country” by slowly encroaching on Hong Kong’s sovereignty Brussels will interpret its victory over the British popular will as a mandate to treat “two countries, one system” as a license to encroach.
If the EU and its lackeys nullify Brexit that will be the true beginning of the end for the UK. Just as Beijing has made a mockery of “two systems, one country†by slowly encroaching on Hong Kong’s sovereignty Brussels will interpret its victory over the British popular will as a mandate to treat “two countries, one system†as a license to encroach.
You are making the mistake of assuming that a no deal Brexit is actually the popular will in the UK.
Most evidence suggests it is not currently the popular will and there is also ample evidence to suggest that the narrow victory for leave (a type of leave that was claimed by most leave campaigners would involve keeping access to the EU single market but without the responsibilities) was based on lies and manipulation.
That's both during the short term of the referendum campaign and also more importantly over the longer term by the drip, drip, drip effect of lies about the EU from the Murdoch and other right wing press that unfortunately wasn't challenged robustly enough by those of more sane mind.
You are making the mistake of assuming that a no deal Brexit is actually the popular will in the UK. . . .
The European election in May would have been the perfect time for the British people to make it clear that they had second thoughts about leaving now that the lines are clearly drawn:
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The results so far show that the hard Brexit vote totalled 36.8% – with the Brexit party on 33.3% and Ukip on 3.5%. The overall total for pro-leave parties was up at 45.6% including the Conservatives on a historically low 8.8%.
The pro-remain vote added up to 41.5% – with the Lib Dems on 20.9%, the Greens on 12.5%, the SNP on 3.5%, Change UK on 3.6% and Plaid Cymru on 1%. Labour, which tried to appeal to both sides with a soft Brexit pitch or a possible confirmatory referendum, was on 14.6%.
The European election in May would have been the perfect time for the British people to make it clear that they had second thoughts about leaving now that the lines are clearly drawn:
This depends on who you believe
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Pro-remain parties collectively outperformed the Brexit party and Ukip
It doesn't seem like a hellhole to me, I think it's a nice place to live personally.
But if it was so unattractive that nobody wanted to come here then that would seem to indicate that it would be worse than it is now.
In your mind, maybe. You used the word 'hellhole'.
At some point in time, there needs to be an emphasis on restoring a decent quality of life to the people already in the country, rather than worrying about attracting newcomers.
And how do you improve quality of life for people already in the country by wrecking the economy and turning it into something like an ex-Soviet country that nobody in their right mind would want to live in? That is just going to make life worse for those people.
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