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MnM258 - My question to you is, where do you live/have you lived in the UK? What is the traffic like there and do you struggle to get a doctor's appointment? I think you sound a bit clueless about the state of the south east and south west England. Rats in a cage on top of one another is about right. If you've only lived in the Highlands, anywhere in Scotland or in the north, you don't really know what it's like down here in the most densely populated areas.
So on top of people on this thread insinuating I am a white supremacist on this thread for being a Brexiter, I'm also being called an exaggerator. It is no exaggeration - I live in an over-populated area in the south west where it is not unusual to ring your doctor and to be told they cannot give you an appointment at the moment. And where the traffic is very heavy especially during the summer. I see that you remainers are very upset and angry about what is going on at the moment in the UK, hence all the vitriol.
I'm not claiming that Brexit will solve all our problems. I am saying that getting out of the EU can only be a good thing for our over-populated country. Between 200,000-300,000 migrants per year come from the EU to the UK.
You missed the main point of the post you quoted.
The Netherlands is significantly more densely populated than Southwest England, yet they have better transport systems and are not blaming the EU and free movement of EU migrants for any perceived problems with their health system.
Do you not think that might be because over a long period they have chosen to invest more in their infrastructure and public services than voters in the UK have?
MnM258 - My question to you is, where do you live/have you lived in the UK? What is the traffic like there and do you struggle to get a doctor's appointment? I think you sound a bit clueless about the state of the south east and south west England. Rats in a cage on top of one another is about right. If you've only lived in the Highlands, anywhere in Scotland or in the north, you don't really know what it's like down here in the most densely populated areas.
London is the most densely populated region of the UK and they voted overwhelmingly to remain. Most densely populated places in the SE voted remain, the most densely populated city in the SE (Bristol) voted remain. Population density has nothing to do with it. Does Singapore have a worse standard of living than Mongolia just because it is more densely populated? Nonsense. It's all about the investment, if you invest properly in infrastructure and services that is the key, if you vote against investment as a country then you will be screwed, whatever the population density.
London is the most densely populated region of the UK and they voted overwhelmingly to remain. Most densely populated places in the SE voted remain, the most densely populated city in the SE (Bristol) voted remain. Population density has nothing to do with it. Does Singapore have a worse standard of living than Mongolia just because it is more densely populated? Nonsense. It's all about the investment, if you invest properly in infrastructure and services that is the key, if you vote against investment as a country then you will be screwed, whatever the population density.
I don't agree, I've lived in very sparsely populated countries and it is great, your stress levels are much lower even is the infrastructure is not as good. Overpopulation is hellish. I didn't enjoy my time in Singapore, either, for the same reason.
It's well known that living in densely populated areas is not great for your mental health.
I wouldn't mind it, I love the wilderness. I've lived in the outback and at the end of a dirt road in a tiny town in New Zealand. I would be happy living in a log cabin in the middle of nowhere, with human company of course, and a cat or two. But now I am getting off track.
Well, you pays your money you takes your choice. If you don't like a densely populated country then don't live in a densely populated country.
Even if all migration stopped tomorrow then the UK would still be among the most densely populated countries for the rest of your life, so if that isn't for you I would look at going to Mongolia or Mauritania instead.
Well, you pays your money you takes your choice. If you don't like a densely populated country then don't live in a densely populated country.
Even if all migration stopped tomorrow then the UK would still be among the most densely populated countries for the rest of your life, so if that isn't for you I would look at going to Mongolia or Mauritania instead.
No, but I feel for my friends and family who stay and encounter the problems. The population at least needs to be kept at current numbers rather than grow. New Zealand has very strict population controls - quotas for migration and it's via a points system. They keep track of who is coming in and what sort of impact there will be on the infrastructure. After going through their system as a migrant I can see that we need to start paying more attention to this in the UK. So that the end result is not going to be, ringing the Dr and being told, sorry no room at the inn.
For the record, this is one of the reasons I left the UK anyway. That and the weather. You don't need to go to Mongolia to get a bit of peace and quiet, the Highlands are nice. Parts of Europe. The Antipodes also but it is a bit far.
And then again a lot of people like more densely populated places, which is why more people live in London than in the Scottish Highlands, or in Singapore rather than Borneo. Being in a densely populated place gives you access to all sorts of culture, different people, interesting things to see and do, architecture, different ideas etc. That's why all the most creative hubs in the world are big urban areas.
And in those creative urban areas most people seem fine with migration, those kind of places all pretty much voted remain in the referendum when if what you say is true about population density they should be the ones suffering the most. The people in those places don't seem to see it that way. Just invest in public services and infrastructure and the problems you mention need not be a big issue. If they are an issue then it's because investment has not been good enough.
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